AMD: 166 Mhz fsb?
The latest bios for the Asus A7V333 (1012 beta) shows a new option as standard 166 MHz fsb setting besides 100 and 133. Does this mean that AMD officially support 166 MHz fsb as standard? Asus is not a little player and I do not believe they did this without AMD's clearance.
The latest bios for the Asus A7V333 (1012 beta) shows a new option as standard 166 MHz fsb setting besides 100 and 133.
Does this mean that AMD officially support 166 MHz fsb as standard?
Asus is not a little player and I do not believe they did this without AMD's clearance.
Any idea?
Does this mean that AMD officially support 166 MHz fsb as standard?
Asus is not a little player and I do not believe they did this without AMD's clearance.
Any idea?
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Recently I have read articles saying that the tbreds in teh future (end of this year) MAY support the higher bus speeds, but there was definatly nothing concrete. There was talk about the Barton officially supporting 166MHz fsb, but that wont work on the A7V333 anyways.
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Hmm?
Why not?
This motherboard is currently running an xp 1700+ at 162 fsb (11xmultiplier, close to 1800 MHz). Core voltage is 1.9 V.
The cpu cannot go higher stably (gets really hot and locks when landing on the desktop at 166). Not sure the mobo is the limiting factor.
Anyway, the interesting fact is this semi-official support for 166 fsb.
We will have to wait for an A7V400 or A7V500
Why not?
This motherboard is currently running an xp 1700+ at 162 fsb (11xmultiplier, close to 1800 MHz). Core voltage is 1.9 V.
The cpu cannot go higher stably (gets really hot and locks when landing on the desktop at 166). Not sure the mobo is the limiting factor.
Anyway, the interesting fact is this semi-official support for 166 fsb.
We will have to wait for an A7V400 or A7V500
Isnt the Barton on a different socket? Thats what I was refering to. Wasnt it supposed to be the 64 bit processor? Or am I jsut 100 and 10% out to lunch?
Barton is gonna be the last Socket A core before Hammer. It is not the 64-bit chip either.
Quote:Barton is gonna be the last Socket A core before Hammer. It is not the 64-bit chip either.
Its just that I read an article about the claw-hammer being released as the Barton.
But - seems that I have been proved wrong.
Its just that I read an article about the claw-hammer being released as the Barton.
But - seems that I have been proved wrong.
I heard somewhere that there is or is going to be PC-166 ram, so as for your ASUS board having 166mhz bus speed on the new bios update seems like its going to be reality sooner then we think....personally i think AMD should consider going the full monty and catching upto Intels 533mhz bus speed.....not that AMD really needs to catch up
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Little review of the 2600+ if anyone is interested
Seems to clock quite well 8)
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzQx
Seems to clock quite well 8)
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzQx
Hey i found this at Warp2search.net
As you might know Nvidia is relying on its Nforce 2 chipset a lot in this quarter and it assumes it they will gain some profit even in this area competing with Via's just announced KT400 chipsets.
Jen Hsun was proud to say that Nvidia has the highest performance and feature DDR 400 chipset with the first industry support for 333 FSBs.
So yes, it's true, Athlon will eventually evolve to 333 MHZ FSB and will be able to stay in track for P4 533 MHz fight. To remind, you even the ancient SIS 735 chipset had support for FSB 333. We are not sure when AMD will introduce these chips but we reckon rather sooner than later. Nforce 2 will be very popular if the prices are targeted in the right area. µ
As you might know Nvidia is relying on its Nforce 2 chipset a lot in this quarter and it assumes it they will gain some profit even in this area competing with Via's just announced KT400 chipsets.
Jen Hsun was proud to say that Nvidia has the highest performance and feature DDR 400 chipset with the first industry support for 333 FSBs.
So yes, it's true, Athlon will eventually evolve to 333 MHZ FSB and will be able to stay in track for P4 533 MHz fight. To remind, you even the ancient SIS 735 chipset had support for FSB 333. We are not sure when AMD will introduce these chips but we reckon rather sooner than later. Nforce 2 will be very popular if the prices are targeted in the right area. µ
Yes, as it seems that AMD can catch on the speed, their next logical step is to propose 166 fsb versions of their chips, just like Intel did not a so long time ago with the PIIIeb at 133.
I guess this new bios setting is already there for some testing by Asus and maybe some oems.
The chip certainly can run reliablyat 166 fsb, there is no doubt about that. Just pump down the multiplier a little bit and its done.
Competition is good
I guess this new bios setting is already there for some testing by Asus and maybe some oems.
The chip certainly can run reliablyat 166 fsb, there is no doubt about that. Just pump down the multiplier a little bit and its done.
Competition is good
It should improve memory bandwidth by a fair amount, just like when the PIII went from PC100 memory to PC133.
Checking out the AMD fans at Tom's, it looks like Via is still holding AMD back on memory performance (big shock).
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q3/020821/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q3/020821/index.html
there is a pretty thurough discussion of this fsb issue at 2cpu.com and it seems that a bump in fsb would pretty much require a new set of chipsets or at least an update to the chipsets. But with the hammer around the corner it doesn't seem to be the best time to be changing the current platform.
I really dislike VIA which has caused me to stay away from AMD for the past couple years but a 2600+ and an nForce2 sounds mighty tasty these days. I would probably use that just for a gaming/mutimedia machine. Although the dual monitor dual nic support could make it a pretty decent workstation os. However i think i will hold on to my i840 until i can afford an i860 or something better. I am not a big gammer anyway.
I really dislike VIA which has caused me to stay away from AMD for the past couple years but a 2600+ and an nForce2 sounds mighty tasty these days. I would probably use that just for a gaming/mutimedia machine. Although the dual monitor dual nic support could make it a pretty decent workstation os. However i think i will hold on to my i840 until i can afford an i860 or something better. I am not a big gammer anyway.
