Are Multiplayer games starting to suck?

Okay, whats up with multiplayer games, cheating, and so-called bug fixes? In the new Counter-Strike 1. 4, they fixed it so you can't plant the bomb while moving. . . lol, ok, you know in real life its impossible for you to carry an explosive, arm it, and drop it on the ground while you're walking/running, WTF! Bunn ...

Slack Space 1613 This topic was started by ,


data/avatar/default/avatar29.webp

1778 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-01-18
Okay, whats up with multiplayer games, cheating, and "so-called" bug fixes? In the new Counter-Strike 1.4, they "fixed" it so you can't plant the bomb while moving...lol, ok, you know in real life its impossible for you to carry an explosive, arm it, and drop it on the ground while you're walking/running, WTF! Bunny Hopping? I know its annoying, but its part of the game, why is this such a problem with CS and not other games? What about cheating? First of all, Cheaters suck, just so all of you out there know. But any more its getting so bad that I don't even play on the net anymore, i'm on a 56k modem (not by choice), it sucks when server admins run cheat protection software that constantly scans for cheats/hacks, for christ's sake, i NEED every ounce of bandwidth i can spare, otherwise i wouldn't tweak my games' configs just so i can get a ping below 300ms, i don't need scans and third party programs like Cheating Death and Punkbuster running in the background sucking up CPU cycles and precious bandwidth that I NEED! Anyway, this is some of the sh1t that crosses my mind and pisses me off. I don't care if people don't feel the same way i do about this, but the thing is, a lot of you know you feel the same way i do.
</rant>
</sarcasm>

Participate on our website and join the conversation

You have already an account on our website? Use the link below to login.
Login
Create a new user account. Registration is free and takes only a few seconds.
Register
This topic is archived. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast.

Responses to this topic


data/avatar/default/avatar19.webp

3857 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-03-29
I only play with people I know anyway, so I don't get too worried about playing online anymore. Cheaters will always be there making aimbots and whatever, and it's just to the point where I don't care anymore. It bothered me before, but now with broadband being so prevelant, servers keep popping up and you can just go somewhere else. But yeah, it sucks.

data/avatar/default/avatar31.webp

1015 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-06-29
What sucks is people being so paranoid about cheaters that if they see someone who is remotly good they get kicked for 'cheating'. Ive had this happen to me many times unfortunatly and ive never even downloaded a cheat

data/avatar/default/avatar33.webp

723 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-02-05
Lol how about we organize a CS session between board members? I can host it on my clan's server. Just let me know
 
It could be done this weekend, Im at a LAN party from Friday till Saturday (maybe sunday)...

data/avatar/default/avatar31.webp

1015 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-06-29
I would be up for that but some ppl are in US and some ppl are else were so i dunno what pings would be like

data/avatar/default/avatar05.webp

614 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-02-25
agreed on the cs.... that would be kick a.ss if the peps here in the forum played some cs together

data/avatar/default/avatar29.webp

1778 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-01-18
OP
If people would only spend time actually playing the game rather than finding creative ways to screw over others like "cheating", then they may actually have a chance of winning the fair way. And yes, people (server admins) get very paranoid about cheaters.
 
Clutch: I agree, i only play with people that i personally know, like at a lan party.
 
What i really want to know is what people here think about the various changes being made to games such as the above mentioned CS 1.4, its supposed to be a realistic counter-terrorism simulation, but instead of adding more realism, they take it out.....know what i mean?

data/avatar/default/avatar19.webp

347 Posts
Location United States
Joined 2002-03-21
The new update for CS and Half-Life came out yesterday, but it has some bugs in it. It does, however, include some new anti-cheat technology.
 
Even though I don't really know many of you guys yet, I would love to join in any forum games for CS, HL, Quake or whatever. Medal of Honor is a newer game that is just as good, if not better. I used to be into HL hugely (see cheesy website), and wouldn't mind getting a new team or clan together or whatever.
 
Does anyone have a server we could use? If not, I have a few friends who admin some HL servers still, I may be able to set us up with a private game, or public if you all prefer.
 
As Clutch pointed out, playing with friends is the best way to go, and if we get a forum server together, it should be pretty safe from cheaters.
 
Keep posting your ideas everyone!

data/avatar/default/avatar33.webp

723 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-02-05
Ok, I'll try to organize this...it would be indeed interesting to get ppl from US to play on our European server But it's worth a try.
 
Our server is up, but the homepage is down due to a burst in traffic, since we're an official mirror for the CS/HL updates. I hope it will be back up in the weekend (www.hdx-world.com)
 
I will post the server IP as soon as I remember it, lol
I will be checking regurarly the server status (with HLSW) starting today evening around 9-10 PM CET (3-4 PM US East coast). Please use your forum nicks, so I know who's who
 
On a personal note, I think that CS1.4 sucks major a$$. There is a huge difference between being able to run at full speed after one (1) jump, and bunny hopping (2 or more run/jumps). Not being able to move while u plant the bomb is also lame, the realism has gone out of it. I also noticed a higher % of headshots than in CS1.3...which can be both good and bad. Our server runs 1.4 by the way, so u will need to update. If the website is back up, u might want to dload the custom mappack (in the Server Info section on the left).
 
Ok, till later

data/avatar/default/avatar36.webp

1207 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-03-27
The problem is that as long as the games stay more or less un-moderated this will happen.
There are always a few people that:
 
Must be the best
Must be able to kill everyone else withour fear
Appear at the top of leaderboards
Think it's fun cheating
General pains in the arse
 
The only way to fix this is to have a system where as a cheat/exploit is found, it is closed within days and they have to go and try and find another.
This is how the likes of UO, AO, EQ, AC, DaOC work, as an exploit is found it is patched out.
With any kind of luck at the same time the character cheating is deleted and the account banned.
Sure that person can go and get a new account, but that exploit wont be available to them.
However, with these games you are paying upto Ā£13 per month.
It's a trade off really, keeping the servers free, combine that with the fact anybody can just go and get a pirate copy of the game and you are all set for anarchy.
Start a monthly charge, make it so characters are stored on the servers - making pirating the game a complete waste of time, and suddenly you have some kind of order.
 
I wonder how many people would subscibe to a CS or HL server with a monthly fee if they knew they could be more of less guaranteed a cheat free game?

data/avatar/default/avatar31.webp

1015 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-06-29
Post the IP i wanna shoot stuff !

data/avatar/default/avatar33.webp

723 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-02-05
**** i dont remember it, Im not at home so I can look it up in HLSW, and the homepage is down I'll post it in a couple of hours, make sure u check back this thread. I'll be online as I said from 8-9 PM CET (2-3 PM US east) onwards
 
Show me what u are made of

data/avatar/default/avatar31.webp

1015 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-06-29
I get about 130ms to driventech. On DSL, in the uk.

data/avatar/default/avatar29.webp

1778 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-01-18
OP
56k here, my pings suck, maybe 150-275ms in CS and about 300ms or so in Q3. I doubt i will have any luck connecting to the server, but i will give it a try when i get the modem i just ordered.

data/avatar/default/avatar09.webp

48 Posts
Location -
Joined 2002-03-04
Counter strike has the largest amount of hackers i have ever seen in a game,it's pathetic.i own the game ,but i dont thnk i've played it more than 3 times. Why bother? Now, Mohaa is starting to get like that. sad state of affairs.also,in-game whining about this and that has hit an all-time high,imho.
 
Hammer

data/avatar/default/avatar19.webp

3857 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-03-29
I don't play CS at all, therefore I wouldn't host it. Too many people (kids) take that game way too seriously. Also, I am not much for violent games that require thought and/or teamwork.

data/avatar/default/avatar15.webp

1047 Posts
Location -
Joined 2000-04-17
I get around 72ms to driventech, would love some Q3 action, although I am not a god at the game.

data/avatar/default/avatar31.webp

1015 Posts
Location -
Joined 2001-06-29
Well i take CS seriously if im not winning it aint fun
 
OK im sad, its a team game and i realise there is no 'I' in team but hey