Crashing

i have a problem that my computer crashes all the time under crash i mean that everything stops. . mouse doesn't move and no button functions. . only one is RESET okay. . the crash happens mostly if i download smthing it includes going to some webpage.

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i have a problem that my computer crashes all the time
under "crash" i mean that everything stops..mouse doesn't move and no button functions..only one is RESET
 
okay..the crash happens mostly if i download smthing
it includes going to some webpage...(i need to download temporary files to be on webpage)
 
mostly i happens if i want to download a file
 
i have noticed that it crashes usually when i download an *.exe file
but it happens also with other formats
BTW DAP,Getright and other download programs are not helping
 
okay..i can live with crashing .. i mean.. i can resume my downloads.. but it can be rather sucky if u'r computer crashes about 100 times per day...
 
my other problem is that...sometimes my download speed goes to zero and it wont go further..it just stops...like..pause/resume don't help..usually this is with most of 10 MB files ... but i am pretty sure that it doesn't matter if file is bigger or smaller..but i think that if the file is smaller it just doesn't have time to make my speed zero..
 
also i have noticed that when i'm using Kazzaa and Ares or smthing like that..i mean the file comes from looots of different users..not from server .. then it doesn't stop the download(speed doesn't go to zero)
 
i am really worried..i do not know what to do..
it's impossible to download smthing and i hate it..
really do..if i could get rid of it, it would be awsome..i could download like millions of things that i have wanted to download but never have had a chance
 
looking forward of your answer..btw sry about my english..it's not my mother language

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Yeah I was just telling him what caps were. I had an Abit KA7-100 mobo that had seven or eight caps that were oozing. Never had a stability issue once. Well maybe the fact that my CPU socket burned up (and I mean literally) due to the wavering voltage from the caps could be considered a "stability" issue but as far as the OS operating...rock solid. Anyway, I hope everyone feels better. Earlier in the post, it seems that there were several mentions of formatting therefore not a virus...can't viruses stay resident in the Master Boot Record of the hard disk regardless of format? I may have missed something from earlier but I am pretty sure this is true (but obviously not the issue if hard drives have been swapped).

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Originally posted by mjwebb007:

Quote:Yeah I was just telling him what caps were. I had an Abit KA7-100 mobo that had seven or eight caps that were oozing. Never had a stability issue once. Well maybe the fact that my CPU socket burned up (and I mean literally) due to the wavering voltage from the caps could be considered a "stability" issue but as far as the OS operating...rock solid. Anyway, I hope everyone feels better. Earlier in the post, it seems that there were several mentions of formatting therefore not a virus...can't viruses stay resident in the Master Boot Record of the hard disk regardless of format? I may have missed something from earlier but I am pretty sure this is true (but obviously not the issue if hard drives have been swapped). 
Yes, some viruses hook into the MBR, "boot sector" viruses. Considering it has already been established by the experts in here that it's not a virus, I found no reason to expand on that, seems a simple format gets rid of ALL viruses, according to the experts.
 
Being the egotistical SOB that I am, I would boot from the XP CD, then head into the recovery console and type in "fixmbr". That would dump any boot sector virus, but WTF do I know?

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It's probably just because you are Canadian... (One of my favorite ports in my entire Navy time was Halifax). I hate how tone doesn't translate easily in computer text. So if it wasn't obvious that Canadian reference was a joke. One thing too that causes a lot of confusion is that this is an Anglo-centric forum so those of us who do not speak English well sometimes have a hard time expressing themselves i.e. Char27 and apparently prestonmgb2003 (though he does seems to grasp syntax and grammar, just not how to make coherent thoughts). Anyway, hopefully again no one is offended. As I stated before, tone translates very poorly without voice or facial expression, so keep that in mind when posting. And for anyone who needs the verification, more of my problems on this forum have been solved by Relic posts than any other. I am done with my tangent. Char27, I would try doing what Relic's last post said. That would ensure that it is not a virus problem. Like I said, and Relic confirmed, Boot Sector Viruses (and these are quite common) can stay in the MBR and without clearing the MBR, will stay resident. This would also give the same indications of what is happening to you.

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Oh, and last mention of my tangent, rocket science is not so hard...it's just some chemistry and physics....brain surgery....NOW that is tough....

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okay i think i have time to check the capictors tomorrow
okay..i wont buy new RAM before i check this out..
i dont have so much money that i can buy new ram just so quickly
i dont know what to do ..
 
well the crasing isnt always when i download..
well i was looking in forum today..and had crash
then restarted comp and as i was typing in my computer user password ja had a new crash and after that..my comp was loading..when the windows XP logo was on..it crashed again
 
so it's rather weird
 
and i was playing a game called Silkroad Online
when i go to town...then i always crash
and when i aint in town then i never crash..
and i want to add that..i town there are like 1000 people all around me..and they make me lag and crash ! i am sure about that , that i crash in the town because of people..but what part of my comp handles those people..i mean...why it crashes when there are MANY people around me ? what could cause that?
 
also i would like to add that...when it crahsed earlier in windows login screen..and in password screen..i removed the internet wire from my computer...and i got in with ease...
and i have had many more crashes in windows login screens all the time...just it crashes even before i log in my user..so i simply remove the internet wire...log in to windows..and put the wire back in...so it dont crash..so mby it is smthing to do with internet?
 
though..i have been at my neighbours appartment..we have shared internet with like 5 people here...dont have money to get one of my own ..
but hes computer never crashes..so it cant be the internet problem..so what's wrong??
i am desperate already...i really wanna play this game .. and download movies..songs etc etc...and all i do is crash...I HATE IT
 
i really need guidance here people
and no more fighting in this topic please
 
i go sleep now..see u tomorrow

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so..i just opened my computer...
the picture wasn't pretty..everywhere was so much dustttt
i cleaned as much as i could
 
so..well i found that 2 parts of my comp are not attached to my comp
 
they were just movin all around my computer
eheh..1 part was rather big..and 1 was little
well i drew the little part...

and the big part is like cubic with lots of sticks pointing out...
i think it is the yellow one in thic pic..mine in silver
 


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Hi Char, welcome back to the forum.
Let me ease your mind on one of the problems you mentioned. When you play a game online you are logging into another computer, so are those other people you see.
There is nothing on your computer that handles the other 1000 people in town.
As for the large part that you said was moving around in your computer. I would guess that it is the heatsink for your CPU but others in here will know for certain.
 

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BUMP!!!
plz dont quit on me...
help mee

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I think the silver piece you describe could be a heatsink. If it is then your computer could be overheating. Download a program called Motherboard Monitor and check your motherboard/CPU tempratures.
 
No idea what the second part could be Could you take a picture of the small part?
 
Yankee

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okay here are two pics of mini part


and here are 3 pics of the big part




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i downloaded speedfan
do u know what is fan2 and temp3?
weird..i recently opened computer and i didnt saw anything melted..
also..about half year ago i had same thing..fan2 didnt work and temp3 was 127..and it doesnt change..always 127..exactly 127
mby tell me any more temp programs..some easy program..just install and see temp
 


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As for the pictures, I am not sure what the small piece is but the large silver piece is your heatsink.

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and what does the heatsink do?
because my comp runs "normally"
for me normally is that it crashes all the time but everything else is okay

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It's job is to pull heat away from the CPU. So with yours not being in it's proper place ontop of the CPU, that would explain why your temperatures are so high.
Try and reseat the heatsink and see if that helps to cool it down some.

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That heatsink is actually off the Northbridge chip, which does get hot and will make the system unstable. The small part is most likely the hold-down clamp for the one side of the heatsink, and was at one time soldered to the mobo. Obviously, for some reason, the solder has let go, and the heatsink fell off.
 
The only option I can see is for you to get some thermal tape(two-sided), or some thermal epoxy, and get the heatsink back on the Northbridge before you fry your mobo, if it isn't fried already.

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i think speefan didnt support some of my hardware
so i got new program
and i think u can see the changes
 

 
about the heatsink..does it matter which side the wire thingys go..
or what positions there are..look my pics..there are those things on the 2 side of the heatsink..

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Originally posted by cormac:

Quote:Hey Char, I finally found your answer to the parts. The little part is what the heatsink clip hooks onto to hold it down in place. You need to find a way to get it attached back in place so you can hook the clap under it. I found this picture of your motherboard showing both parts. http://www.chaintech.com.tw/tw/images/Products/Motherboard/9bia_L.jpg

 
As I said, that's the Northbridge chipset cooler. The wee part is originally soldered to the mobo, for some reason(poor soldering job) the solder let go. Best to use two-sided thermal tape, or thermal epoxy to reintall it. I doubt Char wants to tackle re-soldering it to the mobo.

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okay now i crashed..
and i got this BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH .. brrrrrzzzzzz
weeh..okay
i have got it about 20 times
 
mby some smart guy can tell what is that