it has been mentioned several times that this activation is meant to deture casual copying of software so businesses wont just install one copy over a network and you wont get johhny sharing it with the whole neighborhood. As for the w*arez side of this it is already known and half admitted that there will be cracks and hacks and they can't stop it.

The activation scheme s-u-c-k-s, big time. Who knows how well it will handle not yet available hardware? I have better things to do than to call MS and ask for forgivness everytime I put in a new card in my PC. What's next - you have to pay a fee per document in Word or connect to and pay Intel if you manage to overclock your CPU ?
 
RattDawg is right to the point, I also have 3 PC:s on a LAN and think it should be (almost) legitimate to install it there. Sure, crcks will take care of that but still. Besides, say I had a laptop and a desktop not used at the same time, that would certainly make it feel legitimate to only pay once for the OS.
 
But back to the topic - is it worth an upgrade ? I didn't really see that much new and exciting in it. (2410 tested, don't tell me there is 400 MB of new code since then) Maybe I'm missing something but to me it appeared to be pretty much same silly PR stuff as the W98-Wme upgrade crap. Luna might be cool but hey, there are skins galore as shareware, Next start being the best IMHO. What else - boot a few seconds faster for 200 bucks ? 3 fps more in Quake, or what is this faster we really are talking about ?
 
This said I have to admit I'll propably buy a copy anyhow just because its newer than W2k. But that is entirely because of a rational defect I have.
 
H.

what an idiot you are buddy..
 
don't use xp if you don't want to activate it.
 
If I was in the same position, I would also put that kind of crap on my applications with all of the stealing that goes on.
 
You guys are basically saying
 
"We don't want to pay for software, yet we get mad when they try to stop that"
 
not to mention your clueless comments, you don't even know the end results and your assuming, it's funny stuff. Not to mention that your also clueless about what's new in whistler, which is basically, win2k multiplied by 10.
 
lamers
 
 
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Wow, that was a lot of hard fact arguments coming from the same guy who stated "for raw speed, XP does just as fine as 98/Me on my machine and i'm sure when it's done, it'll be that way."
 
H.

Now that you gotten the usual flame response from the most popular guy here ::cough::, perhaps you would like a more helpful opinion.
 
As for as going from 98 to XP goes, this is a big deal. XP certainly has more stabability than 9x/ME does, and, supposedly, will have speed comparable to it assuming you have a decent about of ram (128+). XP will also support hardware that 2K did not in the past. How much more is open to question, but I would take a guess that MS is going for as much 9x compatability as possible.
 
Justifying a move from Windows 2K is tougher. If all your programs work to your satisfaction in 2K, the upgrade to XP may not be worth the money. Also, if stabability is a concern, even the final release of WinXP will probably not be as solid as 2K is now, until it goes through the usual set of service packs.
 
If you're a business that is using active directory, you might have to go to XP, as MS has said that a huge bug discovered 12 months ago in active directory will only be fixed by upgrading to XP.
 
Also, if you have a decent sized network, you know what a pain it is to upgrade all those machines to a new MS OS (or any OS for that matter). Double that if you have domain servers and the like. So that has to be weighed into consideration as well.
 
As for activation, in its current form, it's easily bypassed. If you prefer, buy one copy, and just apply a crack/whatever to the rest of the copies you want to install on your network. Right now, all you have to do is change an easy-to-find registry key. Note I wouldn't try this if you're a legitimate business...from what I've seen, MS will find you.
 
That's my take on the subject.

You guys must not know how to install a OS right, because I can O/C my PIV to 1600MHz++, warm it back up and play some QIII, UT, browse then net, play with my website, all while listening to some MP3's and not have a single crash all day on WinMe. As far as XP is concerned, I get lockups just sittin there doing nothing on my O/Ced systems, less stable then WinMe from this POV.
 
The Questionnaire
 
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oops, aren't you running a beta? man, you guys are stupid. How about making some judgements after it's finished? losers

Oh... So thats why people complain about Win9x being so unstable....They're still running the beta of it.
 
The Questionnaire

uhm...
 
this is a Windows XP forum section, not WinMe, who said anything about that?
 
I was talking about XP, I couldn't care about winme, win2k, winnt, they all suck

It sure is easy to tell da sucka that buys into MS propaganda. But the question remains why buy three copies of an OS for three computers that I own in my home. I don't think the question here is the integrity of the beta.
Later

I agree with RattDawg. Why do you have to buy a copy of an OS for each computer in your home? Is Microsoft trying to rob us blind?
Maybe its their scheme for world domination!

guess ya never heard what they plan to do to make sure you don't have to pay for it like that...
 
oh well, pointless even telling you, you can wait until RTM

To the tune of "The Real Slim Shady"
 
Would the guy, jdulmage, please shut up
please shut up.
 
Look, MS has screwed up with the authentication codes on other products before, not necessarily Windows, but Office. People have reported not being able to use the software on a different computer, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON. Hopefully, MS will get this straighted out by the time XP comes to market, or there will be a lot of angry consumers. That could give the Mac OS and Linux a jump on MS. MS does have a right to have authentication codes for their software and OSs, they'd be insane not to, however these codes should not prevent the home user from installing it on all of their computers, regardless of how many they may own.
There's gonna have to be a lot more than what MS is advertising for XP. I bought into ME and got bit hard for it. ME has a lot of things regarding compatability and installing items that should be a choice of the user, specifically the Movie Maker program. System Restore is a good idea, but Im gonna turn it off if it takes up too much space. Stability and ME are two things that do not go together. Hopefully, MS will not screw up this big with XP. Right now, 2000 is very good, and I see no compelling reason to upgrade to XP, especially after my encounter with ME. This is my opinion, and I will continue to advertise it until I am convinced otherwise that XP is a worthwhile upgrade from 2000.

bwahahahahaha, I think i'll stop posting here before I die laughing, lame thread anyways

jdulmage
Senior Member
Posts: 768
Registered: Oct 2000
 
Dude jdulmage if you stopped posting then this forum would be like dead since you account for well more then half of the posts here. We can't have that happen....

HAHAHAHHAAHHAHA if jdulmage leaves then where will i get my daily dose of laughter from?
 
I think XP will be worth upgrading too if your a home user. Awesome stability, great performance, nice compatibility....

yeah, and since you were not here long enough to even know, don't even post my post count, you peon.
 
if you wanted me to continue posting, you made that choice.
 
Vampyr, your right, where would you get it from? I may have a lot of certificates, a lot of experience and knowledge in computers, as well as money....haha, so i'm not stupid nor am I computer illerate, I just don't use my knowledge wisely in this forum.

Quote:<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdulmage:
I just don't use my knowledge wisely in this forum.</font>

Never has never will
Brian I got bit by the Me thing too. Ran Me from Beta two until the last rc. They were all great until the last release canidate. Well silly me ran out and bought it once it hit the shelve figuring that Microsoft surely would have worked out the bugs before releasing it. Boy, was I wrong. So although XP is looking really strong Im more than a little gun-shy. Add the security features and 8)

yeah, and since you were not here long enough to even know, don't even post my post count, you peon.>>
 
jdulmage: Sorry bud but I've been around alot longer then you
 
JBrave715
Registered: May 2000
 
jdulmage
Registered: Oct 2000
 
Do the math. Also notice I don't come in here and average 5 garbage posts a day. I read what people have to say NOT bash what people have to say.

Okay i don't get the point here but trial and error is my secret