I think WindowsXP looks lame
I think Windows XP looks lame. Like for children or something. I think they should have waited a while after Millennium came out to release another version. Just because one flops doesn't mean to release another one so soon.
I think Windows XP looks lame. Like for children or something. I think they should have waited a while after Millennium came out to release another version. Just because one flops doesn't mean to release another one so soon. Windows 2000 still rocks and I am not going to switch to XP.
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who eveer said dxp looks lame is a homo
Quote:<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OLEerror:
SimiaN, I think you're missing the point of what XP offers. Forget about the new interface and added features. It creates a common platform for home and business users. This hasn't really been around since DOS. Do you realize how many support headaches this will cure? As you do this for a living I'm sure you can appreciate that.
Personally, I plan on putting my parents and in-laws on XP soon after it is released. They will have the stability on an NT OS, plus the compatibility of 9x. It will also allow me to work on their computers remotely when they have problems.
For the business user, there might not be a large number of pluses over 2000. But to the administrators there is. Concurrent logins by itself makes this upgrade worth it.
I'm just saying, look beyond the glitz and check out the real advantages. XP really is something to look forward to.</font>
First of all, i agree on the benefits of a single platform. Secondly, i've read that if a XP box is a part of a domain, then you can't use user switching. Remote control is also good but many businesses already have the software that allows them to do it. Besides, if a system is totally hosed, Remote Assistance is no use.
SimiaN, I think you're missing the point of what XP offers. Forget about the new interface and added features. It creates a common platform for home and business users. This hasn't really been around since DOS. Do you realize how many support headaches this will cure? As you do this for a living I'm sure you can appreciate that.
Personally, I plan on putting my parents and in-laws on XP soon after it is released. They will have the stability on an NT OS, plus the compatibility of 9x. It will also allow me to work on their computers remotely when they have problems.
For the business user, there might not be a large number of pluses over 2000. But to the administrators there is. Concurrent logins by itself makes this upgrade worth it.
I'm just saying, look beyond the glitz and check out the real advantages. XP really is something to look forward to.</font>
First of all, i agree on the benefits of a single platform. Secondly, i've read that if a XP box is a part of a domain, then you can't use user switching. Remote control is also good but many businesses already have the software that allows them to do it. Besides, if a system is totally hosed, Remote Assistance is no use.
apk you are missing the damn point who care what it looks lik when you get it you can put your os2 buttons up there if you like and whatever else you want also. this os is fully skinable. to be honest i did not like the "fruity" look of luna either, then i used it, now i could give a sh1t what it looks like it is what it works like that counts and it works awesome.
This is just funny now. Nice little hehe. I try to act like a human and you take it as me backing down. You really are 12 and, if you teach I feel sorry for the students and the biased opinion they get from someone like you. It's no wonder most of the kids that come out of school nowadays, have been brainwashed by someone they believe has real knowledge. Oh ya and I taught as well so there goes your 1337 status, to be honest you sound like the a$$hole I used to work with. So I'll be leaving now thanks for your useless FAQ, and your biased opinions. I'll make sure I don't recommend this site to any of my colleagues.
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You can begin to call me a 'lamer' again as I wont be here to defend myself.
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You can begin to call me a 'lamer' again as I wont be here to defend myself.
[This message has been edited by SimiaN (edited 22 March 2001).]
Welp, there ya go, jdulmage. Just as you predicted, newer members are leaving due to the flaming, etc. Contributing members, at that.
I wonder, do you see your own *unique* contribution to this phenomenon?
I've got my own personal opinions about you and a few other 'members' but it's my opinion, it doesn't belong here. I'm sure you have your own opinion of me; and what it is, is none of my business.
Sure a little flaming (in jest) may add to the 'fun fest' here, and things here have been a little slow lately. But, personally, I've about gotten to the point of being fed up with the rest of it; the not-so-friendly stuff.
I can wade through the crap as good as anyone, but what I just witnessed really pisses me off. I've done it myself sure, but find that just a smidgeon, even a modicrum, of SELF-FRIGGING-CONTROL GOES A LONG GOD DAMNED WAYS!!! But I have to actually put it to use. This appears, from the sum of your posts, to be impossible for you to accomplish here. May I suggest to you someplace more suitable; somewhere they feed, watch over, and change the diapers of those who are not in control of their own actions, jdulmage?
I have no other suggestions; many good ones have already been made.
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I wonder, do you see your own *unique* contribution to this phenomenon?
I've got my own personal opinions about you and a few other 'members' but it's my opinion, it doesn't belong here. I'm sure you have your own opinion of me; and what it is, is none of my business.
Sure a little flaming (in jest) may add to the 'fun fest' here, and things here have been a little slow lately. But, personally, I've about gotten to the point of being fed up with the rest of it; the not-so-friendly stuff.
I can wade through the crap as good as anyone, but what I just witnessed really pisses me off. I've done it myself sure, but find that just a smidgeon, even a modicrum, of SELF-FRIGGING-CONTROL GOES A LONG GOD DAMNED WAYS!!! But I have to actually put it to use. This appears, from the sum of your posts, to be impossible for you to accomplish here. May I suggest to you someplace more suitable; somewhere they feed, watch over, and change the diapers of those who are not in control of their own actions, jdulmage?
I have no other suggestions; many good ones have already been made.
[This message has been edited by DeadCats (edited 22 March 2001).]
hehe you said buy...yeah it seems the cracks for XP are getting more and more complicated, even M$'s beta testers are having a sh*t-fit over the activation crap. The thing is though that M$ will have all-in-wonder CD-keys that will deactivate product activation, like there is in OfficeXP so im not too worried about it.
I would just like to throw in my 2 cents.
I'm wondering what's going on here all i see is flaming wars. Now i came here to find some positive critisim and debates on win2k and/or winxp but all i find is "your a homo, lamer". "F**k you" and what not. Now can we get back to the real point of this site. I will admitt some of the wars do make me laugh but when there is like 5 pages full of crap then what does that tell ya. I don't want to start anymore wars but can we all get back to the real point here. I would love to know what u guys think of Winxp but don't bash it due to the fact that it just looks lame because Windows 3.1 (which wasn't really there idea) looked lame but hey it was the best OS MS ever came out with for there DOS (well wasn't really there dos but who cares lol) so looks don't count.
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I'm wondering what's going on here all i see is flaming wars. Now i came here to find some positive critisim and debates on win2k and/or winxp but all i find is "your a homo, lamer". "F**k you" and what not. Now can we get back to the real point of this site. I will admitt some of the wars do make me laugh but when there is like 5 pages full of crap then what does that tell ya. I don't want to start anymore wars but can we all get back to the real point here. I would love to know what u guys think of Winxp but don't bash it due to the fact that it just looks lame because Windows 3.1 (which wasn't really there idea) looked lame but hey it was the best OS MS ever came out with for there DOS (well wasn't really there dos but who cares lol) so looks don't count.
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"We must be free to dream"
Little known but greatly appreciated by low-end machine owners like me, was an OS/GUI known as GeoWorks. They did it up good on Commodore's, but switched over to PC's in the early '90's. At about the same time Microsoft debutted Windows 3.0, GeoWorks released Ensemble for the PC. Like Windows, it also ran on top of DOS and for me, it was great. I remember magazine ads for GeoWorks Ensemble quoting another rag's reviewer(PC World, I think it was), as touting GeoWorks Ensemble as, "What Windows should have been!"
And it was. Multithreaded, multitasking, faster and with much lower hardware requirements than Windows. And its print drivers gave 9-pin printers near-laser quality output. The whole operating system and fairly full-featured programs, including a word processor, spreadsheet, and flat-file database programs (and solitaire, applets, etc.)fit in less than 10MB, even their later versions. It was coded in Assembler, and was fast, fast, fast.
But that was the problem. Without a software development environment and tools, nobody could (not very easily) or would code programs for it. A later version was coded in C, and a developers kit was released, but by then it was too late. GeoWorks beefed up the applications, bringing them up to a par with most office suites, but it still didn't matter.
GeoWorks had a lot of fanatical users, including myself, and we hung in there as long as we could. The very first versions of AOL for the PC all ran GeoWorks runtime engines on top of DOS, and I was also a charter member of AOL via GeoWorks. (Hey, it as 1990, give me a break! )
GeoWorks and Ensemble are still out there. GeoWorks produces computer 'appliances' last time I heard, and Ensemble is now owned and produced by New Deal, Inc. And it's now sold to buyers of used, lower-end machines such as those sold through Renaissance Computers, and as an economical operating system for school computers.
Anyway, enough of a stroll down memory lane.
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"Being married to a programmer is like owning a cat. You talk to it but you're never really sure it hears you, much less comprehends what you say." -DeadCats, 1999
"Talking to DeadCats is like talking to a dead cat." -MrsDeadCats, 2001
And it was. Multithreaded, multitasking, faster and with much lower hardware requirements than Windows. And its print drivers gave 9-pin printers near-laser quality output. The whole operating system and fairly full-featured programs, including a word processor, spreadsheet, and flat-file database programs (and solitaire, applets, etc.)fit in less than 10MB, even their later versions. It was coded in Assembler, and was fast, fast, fast.
But that was the problem. Without a software development environment and tools, nobody could (not very easily) or would code programs for it. A later version was coded in C, and a developers kit was released, but by then it was too late. GeoWorks beefed up the applications, bringing them up to a par with most office suites, but it still didn't matter.
GeoWorks had a lot of fanatical users, including myself, and we hung in there as long as we could. The very first versions of AOL for the PC all ran GeoWorks runtime engines on top of DOS, and I was also a charter member of AOL via GeoWorks. (Hey, it as 1990, give me a break! )
GeoWorks and Ensemble are still out there. GeoWorks produces computer 'appliances' last time I heard, and Ensemble is now owned and produced by New Deal, Inc. And it's now sold to buyers of used, lower-end machines such as those sold through Renaissance Computers, and as an economical operating system for school computers.
Anyway, enough of a stroll down memory lane.
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"Being married to a programmer is like owning a cat. You talk to it but you're never really sure it hears you, much less comprehends what you say." -DeadCats, 1999
"Talking to DeadCats is like talking to a dead cat." -MrsDeadCats, 2001
Ya OS/2 Warp was another great OS. Compared to win95 OS/2 smoked it's as* in speed, stabilty and power along with other differences but what happened to OS/2 was the samething that happened to GeoWorks Ensemble just got weeded out by the guy they call "GOD"(Bill Gates).
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I heard about that but what make you so sure it real deactivate key ?.
Maybe it is new type of time bomb just waiting to go off, Maybe it a new sneak way to see how min people are real useing that product key that didn't buy it.
Some time ago I was going buy Office2000 but soon I hear about activate carp I siad to my self no way I stick with what I have then one day wail shopping at BestBuy & saw Office200 sitting on the self my jaw fall to the floor win I saw the price tag damm there joking rigth $550 and no FrontPage, PhotoDraw and no Vaseline is not included with this deal darn (hehe) for a full ver I paid less then half that for full ver Office97 Pro $225 at BestBuy.
I try out StarOffice or aka now know as OpenOffice it nice but I didn't like Java carp Interface.
It bad enougth we have to put with that damm Windows Update Site but thank god for Windows Update Corporate Site hehe at less now I can save them update to the Harddrive.
The biggest thing I real hate about that activate I need buy 2 CD ekk bite me MS what you think I'am made of money we are not all rich you know.
Where Rodin Hood win you need him ? (hehe).
Maybe it is new type of time bomb just waiting to go off, Maybe it a new sneak way to see how min people are real useing that product key that didn't buy it.
Some time ago I was going buy Office2000 but soon I hear about activate carp I siad to my self no way I stick with what I have then one day wail shopping at BestBuy & saw Office200 sitting on the self my jaw fall to the floor win I saw the price tag damm there joking rigth $550 and no FrontPage, PhotoDraw and no Vaseline is not included with this deal darn (hehe) for a full ver I paid less then half that for full ver Office97 Pro $225 at BestBuy.
I try out StarOffice or aka now know as OpenOffice it nice but I didn't like Java carp Interface.
It bad enougth we have to put with that damm Windows Update Site but thank god for Windows Update Corporate Site hehe at less now I can save them update to the Harddrive.
The biggest thing I real hate about that activate I need buy 2 CD ekk bite me MS what you think I'am made of money we are not all rich you know.
Where Rodin Hood win you need him ? (hehe).
Oh yes DeadCats I still have that GeoWorks Ensemble 2.1 & the one before that very cool OS run's very nice on 286 16Mhz man where thoses good old day's hehe.
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Man, I loved Warp.
But it was so amazing to sit there and watch IBM miss the deal of the century, when Win95 missed it's release date by a big margin, and IBM had a golden window of opportunity to really push the ad campaign for Warp 3.0, which was out the door it seems like a good six months prior to Win95. People were tired of waiting for Win95, and here was Warp, ready to be installed. So what did IBM do? Ran an ad campaign featuring cute Italian nuns and no clue whatsoever what the product was they were trying to sell.
That's at least the third great opportunity missed by IBM's underestimation of Bill Gates' ability to maneuver: The belief that personal computers would be a niche market at best; allowing Microsoft to keep ownership of DOS; and pushawing Gate's design ideas for OS/2 (coded by Microsoft), which did in fact become Windows.
At the same time, they spent millions on obscure advertising; laid off thousand of productive workers while keeping an extremely topheavy management; and paying unGawdly amounts in salary and bonuses to top-level chiefs including the CEO (who had the stupidity to treat Gates as 'one of the little guys').
Damn, SHS, Joker, now you got me going again.
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"Being married to a programmer is like owning a cat. You talk to it but you're never really sure it hears you, much less comprehends what you say." -DeadCats, 1999
"Talking to DeadCats is like talking to a dead cat." -MrsDeadCats, 2001
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But it was so amazing to sit there and watch IBM miss the deal of the century, when Win95 missed it's release date by a big margin, and IBM had a golden window of opportunity to really push the ad campaign for Warp 3.0, which was out the door it seems like a good six months prior to Win95. People were tired of waiting for Win95, and here was Warp, ready to be installed. So what did IBM do? Ran an ad campaign featuring cute Italian nuns and no clue whatsoever what the product was they were trying to sell.
That's at least the third great opportunity missed by IBM's underestimation of Bill Gates' ability to maneuver: The belief that personal computers would be a niche market at best; allowing Microsoft to keep ownership of DOS; and pushawing Gate's design ideas for OS/2 (coded by Microsoft), which did in fact become Windows.
At the same time, they spent millions on obscure advertising; laid off thousand of productive workers while keeping an extremely topheavy management; and paying unGawdly amounts in salary and bonuses to top-level chiefs including the CEO (who had the stupidity to treat Gates as 'one of the little guys').
Damn, SHS, Joker, now you got me going again.
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"Being married to a programmer is like owning a cat. You talk to it but you're never really sure it hears you, much less comprehends what you say." -DeadCats, 1999
"Talking to DeadCats is like talking to a dead cat." -MrsDeadCats, 2001
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Quote:<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SimiaN:
This is just funny now. Nice little hehe. I try to act like a human and you take it as me backing down. You really are 12 and, if you teach I feel sorry for the students and the biased opinion they get from someone like you. It's no wonder most of the kids that come out of school nowadays, have been brainwashed by someone they believe has real knowledge. Oh ya and I taught as well so there goes your 1337 status, to be honest you sound like the a$$hole I used to work with. So I'll be leaving now thanks for your useless FAQ, and your biased opinions. I'll make sure I don't recommend this site to any of my colleagues.
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You can begin to call me a 'lamer' again as I wont be here to defend myself.
[This message has been edited by SimiaN (edited 22 March 2001).]</font>
Ok, well since you won't be here anymore, i guess it doesn't hurt to give you what you asked for, and in the nicest way possible............LAMER!
This is just funny now. Nice little hehe. I try to act like a human and you take it as me backing down. You really are 12 and, if you teach I feel sorry for the students and the biased opinion they get from someone like you. It's no wonder most of the kids that come out of school nowadays, have been brainwashed by someone they believe has real knowledge. Oh ya and I taught as well so there goes your 1337 status, to be honest you sound like the a$$hole I used to work with. So I'll be leaving now thanks for your useless FAQ, and your biased opinions. I'll make sure I don't recommend this site to any of my colleagues.
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You can begin to call me a 'lamer' again as I wont be here to defend myself.
[This message has been edited by SimiaN (edited 22 March 2001).]</font>
Ok, well since you won't be here anymore, i guess it doesn't hurt to give you what you asked for, and in the nicest way possible............LAMER!