Java Virtual Machine no longer available for XP?
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for now yes
it's a thing between ms and sun.
sun wants to pull the java script liscence from ms
ms says it wont support anything it has no access to code wise
(for security)
so in the near future ms may stop officially supporting java
it's a thing between ms and sun.
sun wants to pull the java script liscence from ms
ms says it wont support anything it has no access to code wise
(for security)
so in the near future ms may stop officially supporting java
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for now yes
it's a thing between ms and sun.
sun wants to pull the java script liscence from ms
ms says it wont support anything it has no access to code wise
(for security)
so in the near future ms may stop officially supporting java
They have no choice. To cut a long story short: M$ ****ed with Java, Sun sued, M$ got 0wnt and had their Java licence revoked which means they have a limited amount of time before they have to stop integrating Java into their products completely.
for now yes
it's a thing between ms and sun.
sun wants to pull the java script liscence from ms
ms says it wont support anything it has no access to code wise
(for security)
so in the near future ms may stop officially supporting java
They have no choice. To cut a long story short: M$ ****ed with Java, Sun sued, M$ got 0wnt and had their Java licence revoked which means they have a limited amount of time before they have to stop integrating Java into their products completely.
You will, however, still be able to use Sun's own virtual machine from java.sun.com ... I have been using this on my WXP system for some time and it works like a charm.
Sun wanted it *their* way or no way at all, so it's no way at all. Personally, I am glad it happened. Sun's JavaVM is fine but does take a bit of a performance hit when it first loads.
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html
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Sun wanted it *their* way or no way at all, so it's no way at all.
Isn't that the purpose of a licence agreement? Had the situation been reversed M$ would have charged like a bull at a gate so why do all the M$ fanboys make Sun out to be the bad guy?
Sun wanted it *their* way or no way at all, so it's no way at all.
Isn't that the purpose of a licence agreement? Had the situation been reversed M$ would have charged like a bull at a gate so why do all the M$ fanboys make Sun out to be the bad guy?
It is still available to download. You just have to find it...
Go to http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp.
Click on Personalize Windows Update.
Check "Display the link to the Windows Update Catalog under See Also"
Save Settings.
Click on Windows Update Catalog.
Find updates for Microsoft Windows operating systems.
Windows XP.
Search.
I believe it will be listed under Recommended Updates.
I just did a new installation last week and this is where I got it from.
-=ThePhatness
Go to http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp.
Click on Personalize Windows Update.
Check "Display the link to the Windows Update Catalog under See Also"
Save Settings.
Click on Windows Update Catalog.
Find updates for Microsoft Windows operating systems.
Windows XP.
Search.
I believe it will be listed under Recommended Updates.
I just did a new installation last week and this is where I got it from.
-=ThePhatness
Some links...Google Groups are your friend!
-=ThePhatness
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For 9x, ME, NT, XP msjavx86.exe is available currently through a number
of ftp sites such as those listed here:
http://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/win95/fixes/VM/msjavx86.exe
ftp://ftp.redcom.mu/pub/support/windows/corporate/8.04/winxp/en/com micro
soft.internetexplorer6x/x86WinXP/com microsoft.javavm 3319 MIL 4275/MSJav
x86.exe
ftp://ftp.uq.edu.au/mirror/microsoft/patches/winxp/javavm 3319 MIL 4275/M
SJavx86.exe
ftp://ftp.intergraph.com/ingr/pub/old/pub/federal/msjavx86.exe
(probable, but not positive that this is 3805)
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/2/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.euroweb.hu/pub/euroweb/neopho
ne/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/6/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.univ-paris1.fr/pub/pc/correct
ifs/winxp/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/13/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/vendor/micro
soft/msjava/Security Bulletins/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/7/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.sunet.se/pub2/security/vendor
/microsoft/msjava/Security Bulletins/msjavx86.exe
On other ftp sites, be sure and download the 5473KB version to get
Version 3805.
Regards, Jim Byrd
-=ThePhatness
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For 9x, ME, NT, XP msjavx86.exe is available currently through a number
of ftp sites such as those listed here:
http://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/win95/fixes/VM/msjavx86.exe
ftp://ftp.redcom.mu/pub/support/windows/corporate/8.04/winxp/en/com micro
soft.internetexplorer6x/x86WinXP/com microsoft.javavm 3319 MIL 4275/MSJav
x86.exe
ftp://ftp.uq.edu.au/mirror/microsoft/patches/winxp/javavm 3319 MIL 4275/M
SJavx86.exe
ftp://ftp.intergraph.com/ingr/pub/old/pub/federal/msjavx86.exe
(probable, but not positive that this is 3805)
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/2/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.euroweb.hu/pub/euroweb/neopho
ne/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/6/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.univ-paris1.fr/pub/pc/correct
ifs/winxp/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/13/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/vendor/micro
soft/msjava/Security Bulletins/msjavx86.exe
http://www.alltheweb.com/go/7/H/ftp/ftp/ftp.sunet.se/pub2/security/vendor
/microsoft/msjava/Security Bulletins/msjavx86.exe
On other ftp sites, be sure and download the 5473KB version to get
Version 3805.
Regards, Jim Byrd
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Isn't that the purpose of a licence agreement? Had the situation been reversed M$ would have charged like a bull at a gate so why do all the M$ fanboys make Sun out to be the bad guy?
There was a contractual obligation, and Sun stated do it our way or take it off. So, MS called their bluff. I say so what, let them make their own (since they update it I imagine it will run better anyway) and you imply that I am a fanboy? Well let me tell you something, I am. Get over it. I like MS, I get stuff for free all the time to make my job easier, and I can manage many servers on many networks with no problems using their products. However, I do like the idea of them letting Sun simply provide their own JVM and stepping away from it entirely. They licensed the Java tech at one time and added some extra crap to it to support their own Visual J++ (or whatever the hell it was) and Sun cried foul. Screw them, they can provide their own since they can probably do it better and make a faster running interpreter than MS would be will to spend time on.
Isn't that the purpose of a licence agreement? Had the situation been reversed M$ would have charged like a bull at a gate so why do all the M$ fanboys make Sun out to be the bad guy?
There was a contractual obligation, and Sun stated do it our way or take it off. So, MS called their bluff. I say so what, let them make their own (since they update it I imagine it will run better anyway) and you imply that I am a fanboy? Well let me tell you something, I am. Get over it. I like MS, I get stuff for free all the time to make my job easier, and I can manage many servers on many networks with no problems using their products. However, I do like the idea of them letting Sun simply provide their own JVM and stepping away from it entirely. They licensed the Java tech at one time and added some extra crap to it to support their own Visual J++ (or whatever the hell it was) and Sun cried foul. Screw them, they can provide their own since they can probably do it better and make a faster running interpreter than MS would be will to spend time on.
Clutch,
if I install the SUN version (and I agree, it's better (much newer)) do I still get the ****ing coffeecup in my systray when browsing a site that contains java?
just wanna know before I get it (again)...
[edit] the reason I ask is I'm stuck with it since installing the Insight Manager Client for my Compaqservers...and I wanna get rid of it. [/edit]
/Toby
if I install the SUN version (and I agree, it's better (much newer)) do I still get the ****ing coffeecup in my systray when browsing a site that contains java?
just wanna know before I get it (again)...
[edit] the reason I ask is I'm stuck with it since installing the Insight Manager Client for my Compaqservers...and I wanna get rid of it. [/edit]
/Toby
Umm, it appears so as I just installed it on my new box and I have it. I just poked about through the applet and I can't find anything about hiding the systray icon. But, I can tell you that it's worth it since it handles many more Java implementations smoothly (like the Lights-Out console on one of my Compaq servers).
i havea web site, that i go to, i got teh windows update JM, and when i vist this one web site, that is all mainly java based, it uses %100 cpu power.....? is this right?
(is uses a "download" script to download files to your computer, as soon as u gte on that window BAM! %100 cpu usage, and uigot a p4 1.8)
(is uses a "download" script to download files to your computer, as soon as u gte on that window BAM! %100 cpu usage, and uigot a p4 1.8)
tbph I much prefer the M$ Java to the Sun Java. I have to use the Sun Java with Opera and it sucks. Still, if you break the rules you deserve everything you get.
