Just bought a Radeon 9700 Pro....
This card is nothing short of AWESOME!!!. The speed and image quality is INCREDIBLE!!. I have been an Nvidia user for a long time and was hesitant about buying this card. Nevertheless, I am very surprised at the speed this thing possesses.
This card is nothing short of AWESOME!!!. The speed and image quality is INCREDIBLE!!. I have been an Nvidia user for a long time and was hesitant about buying this card. Nevertheless, I am very surprised at the speed this thing possesses. My 3DMark went from 8000 to 12249!!. I would recommend it to anyone that is looking to upgrade......
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Quote:I do agree with you though that MY 3DMark scores should be higher than they are. I dont know, maybe I just have a piece of $hit computer.....lol. At any rate, I am happy with the Radeon. Have a good Christmas.
Maybe the PC2100 is holding you back, Prehaps a fresh install of windows, it could be anything. Also I wouldn't use 3dmark to describe a computer as crap.
I recently upgraded my Celeron 633 to a XP 1700+. Both systems are/were using a GeForce2 MX200 card. I gained about 400 3dmarks when I used the XP. But in the real world my games feel so much faster and in general everything is better.
Don't base your computer on a 3DMark score.
P.S. I've also heard rumors that 3Dmark is more optmised for nVidia hardware.
Maybe the PC2100 is holding you back, Prehaps a fresh install of windows, it could be anything. Also I wouldn't use 3dmark to describe a computer as crap.
I recently upgraded my Celeron 633 to a XP 1700+. Both systems are/were using a GeForce2 MX200 card. I gained about 400 3dmarks when I used the XP. But in the real world my games feel so much faster and in general everything is better.
Don't base your computer on a 3DMark score.
P.S. I've also heard rumors that 3Dmark is more optmised for nVidia hardware.
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How do you figure that a Radeon 9700 is clocked "so much higher than the Ti4600"?. Here are the numbers:
Radeon 9700 Pro:
GPU clock- 325Mhz
Memory clock- 620 Mhz
GeForce Ti4600:
GPU clock- 300Mhz
Memory clock- 650Mhz
25Mhz is not "so much higher in my book". The memory is clocked 30 Mhz higher on your Ti4600 also. It's not the clock speed of the GPU or the memory that make this card stand out....it's the technology behind it.
The 9700 has double the memory bandwidth that the TI 4600 has - THAT is where it gets alot of speed! the TI has like 10.4gb/sec, the ati has about 19 gb per /sec i think it is.
and as for the higher scores - your cpu and memory have ALOT to do with it, don't think your gpu is taking all the heat for 3dmark - also, 3d mark is not a real world test, so don't hink tcause u don't got a higher score that your system is not better.
i got both a ti 4600 and a ati 9700 - i should run some tests of my own.
But of couse the obvious - the 9700 is newer so it is faster, and when the fx comes out, it will be faster, and then when ATi pops out it's new card, it will be faster and so on, and so on etc etc.
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SilveradoIf you look in my profile you will see my 3dmark, i aint saying anything bad but i aint impressed with that score for a 9700 radeon on your system. RAM and processor give next nothing for 3dmarks, especially with a radeon being so much higher clock rates than the Ti4600 (mine is at stock speeds) i would of expected much higher than what i have.
How do you figure that a Radeon 9700 is clocked "so much higher than the Ti4600"?. Here are the numbers:
Radeon 9700 Pro:
GPU clock- 325Mhz
Memory clock- 620 Mhz
GeForce Ti4600:
GPU clock- 300Mhz
Memory clock- 650Mhz
25Mhz is not "so much higher in my book". The memory is clocked 30 Mhz higher on your Ti4600 also. It's not the clock speed of the GPU or the memory that make this card stand out....it's the technology behind it.
The 9700 has double the memory bandwidth that the TI 4600 has - THAT is where it gets alot of speed! the TI has like 10.4gb/sec, the ati has about 19 gb per /sec i think it is.
and as for the higher scores - your cpu and memory have ALOT to do with it, don't think your gpu is taking all the heat for 3dmark - also, 3d mark is not a real world test, so don't hink tcause u don't got a higher score that your system is not better.
i got both a ti 4600 and a ati 9700 - i should run some tests of my own.
But of couse the obvious - the 9700 is newer so it is faster, and when the fx comes out, it will be faster, and then when ATi pops out it's new card, it will be faster and so on, and so on etc etc.
Well, when you install any new hardware - for me it is a rule to reformat, to get ride of old useless drivers.
I format often anyways, i just put .net rc2 on my vaio with my g4 4600.
but anyways - don't go buy 3dmark - i have also heard the rumours of its prefernce for Nvidia cards. Also, as i said your CPU and memory AND hard drive speed are affected - if you got a slow 5400 rpm HD - then that is gonna limit how fast the data can be read anbd sent to the rest of your system. Don't think JUSt cause u got a new video card your scores will fly through the roof. - unless u got from like a TNT 2 32mb card to a g4 4600 ultra like i did, from liek 6000 on 3d makr to about 10,000 - darn pc133!
Look at cold hard numbers - actual specs /' tech details for each card. - and toms hardware - his reviews are okay, - but his wording is crap and his comparisions are usually a joke and recycled with new product names.
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I was gonna go for this card myself until i saw its problems with some games, like displaying bad textures in UT2003 and also a mate of mine bought an 8500 radeon and he doesnt like it, so i stayed away. Maybe they have changed but i need proof before i jump the boat. I jumped over to my P4 because the Intel chips are so much cheaper now than they were and i thought i would give them a go, but the radeon still seems to have problems and at nearly 50% extra cost of the GF4 Ti4600 i didnt think it was worth it
i got ut2003 - full details, max res - 1600 x 1200 - not ONE issue with this game - problems like that can be related to MANY other issues - so to just right out blame a video card to me is not very smart, just an easy way out. And why does your mate not like his 8500 - i got a 7500 in my moms comp - my friend has the 64mb 8500 - no issues, and he plays more games and watches more movies then i do!
I format often anyways, i just put .net rc2 on my vaio with my g4 4600.
but anyways - don't go buy 3dmark - i have also heard the rumours of its prefernce for Nvidia cards. Also, as i said your CPU and memory AND hard drive speed are affected - if you got a slow 5400 rpm HD - then that is gonna limit how fast the data can be read anbd sent to the rest of your system. Don't think JUSt cause u got a new video card your scores will fly through the roof. - unless u got from like a TNT 2 32mb card to a g4 4600 ultra like i did, from liek 6000 on 3d makr to about 10,000 - darn pc133!
Look at cold hard numbers - actual specs /' tech details for each card. - and toms hardware - his reviews are okay, - but his wording is crap and his comparisions are usually a joke and recycled with new product names.
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I was gonna go for this card myself until i saw its problems with some games, like displaying bad textures in UT2003 and also a mate of mine bought an 8500 radeon and he doesnt like it, so i stayed away. Maybe they have changed but i need proof before i jump the boat. I jumped over to my P4 because the Intel chips are so much cheaper now than they were and i thought i would give them a go, but the radeon still seems to have problems and at nearly 50% extra cost of the GF4 Ti4600 i didnt think it was worth it
i got ut2003 - full details, max res - 1600 x 1200 - not ONE issue with this game - problems like that can be related to MANY other issues - so to just right out blame a video card to me is not very smart, just an easy way out. And why does your mate not like his 8500 - i got a 7500 in my moms comp - my friend has the 64mb 8500 - no issues, and he plays more games and watches more movies then i do!
