Necessary or Just a War?
It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is in your face. Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces? The human eye can only see so much and the human ...
It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is "in your face". Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
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It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is "in your face". Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
what's this? Jdulmange trying to stur up another huge thread.
It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is "in your face". Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
what's this? Jdulmange trying to stur up another huge thread.
it's jdulmage and we're asking what the harm is? lol
jk
anyway...
it's sad how things have moved up.
yes, it's essential for gamers like me.
I like my 1600x1200 gaming on my 20.1" LCD.
I like my quarter terabyte of hdd space--it helps with my TV-capture card's encoding of movies(or TV) into DivX.
My computer is a media box
My computer is a gaming rig.
My computer is a powerful workstation
My computer is NOT meant for lil ol grannies that want to play Solitaire between making cards.
The perfect low end system for most people that aren't: gamers, programmers, power users, etc. is something along the lines of this:
nForce motherboard.
256-512mb RAM(depending on how they plan on using their system)
Duron 1.1ghz (or Athlon as need dictates)
40gb hdd to start out with(if they go Kazaa crazy, they can add in more)
a 40x CDRW(price difference between 40x and 32x? 10 bucks. Price between 40x and 48x LiteOn? Free w/ firmware update )
DVD drive
Videocard with TV-out(probably a GeForce3 as they're about the same price as a GF4 MX)
sound is taken care of onboard, and is high quality
ethernet is taken care of onboard
modem as necessary
quiet case with room for expansion
Now, a system like that only will cost about 500 dollars. add in peripherals and software, and it's about 800. But take into account piracy from friend,s and it's closer to 700.
It offers room for expansion. it is relatively affordable. and it is powerful enough to last them a year or 2. With proper upgrades, it can last them up to 3. But at this time, we'll be running 64-bit systems that make this system look like a toy.
jk
anyway...
it's sad how things have moved up.
yes, it's essential for gamers like me.
I like my 1600x1200 gaming on my 20.1" LCD.
I like my quarter terabyte of hdd space--it helps with my TV-capture card's encoding of movies(or TV) into DivX.
My computer is a media box
My computer is a gaming rig.
My computer is a powerful workstation
My computer is NOT meant for lil ol grannies that want to play Solitaire between making cards.
The perfect low end system for most people that aren't: gamers, programmers, power users, etc. is something along the lines of this:
nForce motherboard.
256-512mb RAM(depending on how they plan on using their system)
Duron 1.1ghz (or Athlon as need dictates)
40gb hdd to start out with(if they go Kazaa crazy, they can add in more)
a 40x CDRW(price difference between 40x and 32x? 10 bucks. Price between 40x and 48x LiteOn? Free w/ firmware update )
DVD drive
Videocard with TV-out(probably a GeForce3 as they're about the same price as a GF4 MX)
sound is taken care of onboard, and is high quality
ethernet is taken care of onboard
modem as necessary
quiet case with room for expansion
Now, a system like that only will cost about 500 dollars. add in peripherals and software, and it's about 800. But take into account piracy from friend,s and it's closer to 700.
It offers room for expansion. it is relatively affordable. and it is powerful enough to last them a year or 2. With proper upgrades, it can last them up to 3. But at this time, we'll be running 64-bit systems that make this system look like a toy.
You guys kill me sometimes
Not literally...
anyways..
yeah, but see, you are doing enough with the system to need a nice set up like that. I'm really focusing on people who have systems much like yours just to play Diablo II and Warcraft III, lol. It isn't worth the price I don't think.
(By the way..this huge thread isn't huge enough yet, and plus, it isn't really bashing anyone, except those ol' grannies who play Solitare)
Not literally...
anyways..
yeah, but see, you are doing enough with the system to need a nice set up like that. I'm really focusing on people who have systems much like yours just to play Diablo II and Warcraft III, lol. It isn't worth the price I don't think.
(By the way..this huge thread isn't huge enough yet, and plus, it isn't really bashing anyone, except those ol' grannies who play Solitare)
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And some pay the amount they can buy a car for a new 2.4 Ghz "gaming" rig with 2GB of memory. And then install "WINDOWS 98SE" on it. This is true, i sold it myself. And the idiot did not listen to me to install 2K or XP, cause the gaming magazine he reads claimed W98 is still the best os for gaming and his "expert" friend said i was wrong when i said w98 can't use more than 256 MB memory!!!
Figure That!
Did he bring it back a few days later asking why it was crashing? Not only are Windows 98s memory management routines complete crap above 256Mb, they crap out entirely above 512Mb and the OS can't even address more than 1Gb.
And some pay the amount they can buy a car for a new 2.4 Ghz "gaming" rig with 2GB of memory. And then install "WINDOWS 98SE" on it. This is true, i sold it myself. And the idiot did not listen to me to install 2K or XP, cause the gaming magazine he reads claimed W98 is still the best os for gaming and his "expert" friend said i was wrong when i said w98 can't use more than 256 MB memory!!!
Figure That!
Did he bring it back a few days later asking why it was crashing? Not only are Windows 98s memory management routines complete crap above 256Mb, they crap out entirely above 512Mb and the OS can't even address more than 1Gb.
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Did he bring it back a few days later asking why it was crashing? Not only are Windows 98s memory management routines complete crap above 256Mb, they crap out entirely above 512Mb and the OS can't even address more than 1Gb.
I didn't know it existed above 512 MB....
I put a gun to his head and sold him a Win XP OEM. and had my guys install it.
Did he bring it back a few days later asking why it was crashing? Not only are Windows 98s memory management routines complete crap above 256Mb, they crap out entirely above 512Mb and the OS can't even address more than 1Gb.
I didn't know it existed above 512 MB....
I put a gun to his head and sold him a Win XP OEM. and had my guys install it.
Between 512Mb and 1Gb you get all kinds of ****ed up **** happening like "Out of memory" errors and random lockups (more often than usual for a Win98 box ). The solution is to set Windows VCACHE to something like 25% of the installed RAM but in doing so you prevent other programs from using it so theres really no point.
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I didn't know it existed above 512 MB....
I put a gun to his head and sold him a Win XP OEM. and had my guys install it.
I can relate to that. I often wonder "If they have 'expert' friends, why do they need us to help build and install when their 'expert' friends could do it for little to no cost?"
I hate people like that. But we know, the customer is always WRONG
I didn't know it existed above 512 MB....
I put a gun to his head and sold him a Win XP OEM. and had my guys install it.
I can relate to that. I often wonder "If they have 'expert' friends, why do they need us to help build and install when their 'expert' friends could do it for little to no cost?"
I hate people like that. But we know, the customer is always WRONG
This kinda thing reminds me of someone who's a total Linux-head, & hasn't used windows since 98se. He apparently tried XP for about 30 mins then condemned it as being crap - it takes longer than that to tweak it & get all the settings the way you want them & start installing all those little essential apps that everyone has. & then he goes on trying to act like an expert on XP & tell ppl about how bad it is!!!
Compared with Linux XP is crap
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Compared with Linux XP is crap
I think it is now the que to say:
"Linux has a long way to go before it becomes a logical choice of OS for Office or Home use, and requires strong office applications and support etc."
Oh nearly forgot,
" Linux is crap compared to W2k" Or something like that.
Please note despite not liking Linux, and recommending it, I am in no way target for your dear linux-lover backlash... I am just fullfilling the requirements of a Linux - Windows discussion.
Compared with Linux XP is crap
I think it is now the que to say:
"Linux has a long way to go before it becomes a logical choice of OS for Office or Home use, and requires strong office applications and support etc."
Oh nearly forgot,
" Linux is crap compared to W2k" Or something like that.
Please note despite not liking Linux, and recommending it, I am in no way target for your dear linux-lover backlash... I am just fullfilling the requirements of a Linux - Windows discussion.
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"Linux has a long way to go before it becomes a logical choice of OS for Office or Home use, and requires strong office applications and support etc."
I agree with this statement which is why my machine currently runs Windows XP
If I could fully migrate to Linux I would have done so ages ago.
"Linux has a long way to go before it becomes a logical choice of OS for Office or Home use, and requires strong office applications and support etc."
I agree with this statement which is why my machine currently runs Windows XP
If I could fully migrate to Linux I would have done so ages ago.
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I agree with this statement which is why my machine currently runs Windows XP
If I could fully migrate to Linux I would have done so ages ago.
Probably same here, but it lacks.
It also lacks in something called up[censored]. I don't want to have to download 500 MB every time I need to fix a problem in the OS. The security holes and bugs are there (even viruses now), but because they don't have a "Windows Update" equivelant, you have to wait until they release a revision.
Last year's bug reports show 3 different distros of Linux having more security holes/bugs in it than Windows 2000, which sat roughly in the middle of that chart....so I would love to see an easier way of handling those problems.
I agree with this statement which is why my machine currently runs Windows XP
If I could fully migrate to Linux I would have done so ages ago.
Probably same here, but it lacks.
It also lacks in something called up[censored]. I don't want to have to download 500 MB every time I need to fix a problem in the OS. The security holes and bugs are there (even viruses now), but because they don't have a "Windows Update" equivelant, you have to wait until they release a revision.
Last year's bug reports show 3 different distros of Linux having more security holes/bugs in it than Windows 2000, which sat roughly in the middle of that chart....so I would love to see an easier way of handling those problems.
I dunno, Linux just does not make sense to me at the moment. I used it on Cobalt Raq's, Wasn't very hapy about it despite having Sun behind to support.
Or maybe I like the pain and expense of Microsoft and get some form of hidden pleasure. No atter how much i complain about it, Or how expensive they make it. we just don't have an alternative to MS.
So we gotta shut up, bend over and take it like a man!
Or maybe I like the pain and expense of Microsoft and get some form of hidden pleasure. No atter how much i complain about it, Or how expensive they make it. we just don't have an alternative to MS.
So we gotta shut up, bend over and take it like a man!
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It also lacks in something called up[censored]. I don't want to have to download 500 MB every time I need to fix a problem in the OS. The security holes and bugs are there (even viruses now), but because they don't have a "Windows Update" equivelant, you have to wait until they release a revision.
You can download the source for just about every component in any major Linux distribution off the projects website, you don't have to redownload the latest version of the distribution. Source trees aren't exactly large either, the Apache 2.0.35 source comes in at just over 9Mb and compiling them isn't all that difficult, like I said earlier it's simply a matter of issuing three commands: ./configure; make; make install although it's best to read and README or INSTALL documents that come with any source first.
It also lacks in something called up[censored]. I don't want to have to download 500 MB every time I need to fix a problem in the OS. The security holes and bugs are there (even viruses now), but because they don't have a "Windows Update" equivelant, you have to wait until they release a revision.
You can download the source for just about every component in any major Linux distribution off the projects website, you don't have to redownload the latest version of the distribution. Source trees aren't exactly large either, the Apache 2.0.35 source comes in at just over 9Mb and compiling them isn't all that difficult, like I said earlier it's simply a matter of issuing three commands: ./configure; make; make install although it's best to read and README or INSTALL documents that come with any source first.
