Necessary or Just a War?
It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is in your face. Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces? The human eye can only see so much and the human ...
It seems more like an everyday battle to prove who has the best of the best when infact, it really is "in your face". Not to mention that the best of the best is sometimes the dumbest move. No offense, but who needs that much graphic and that much sound in their faces?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
The human eye can only see so much and the human ear can only hear so much, and the human mind can only process and understand/notice so much. After a certain point, it becomes a popularity contest and is there for glamor only.
For example:
Someone who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.0 Ghz Machine, 512 MB RAM, GeForce 3 Video and SB Live! X-Gamer 5.1
Someone else who plays games, runs everyday internet programs and runs his small business using a 1.8 Ghz Machine, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 4 Video and SB Audigy!
The different is hardly even noticed....just in the device manager and sales receipts.
I know that even 5 years from now I will laugh at this post, but I'm talking as a whole here, considering the future, but also considering the present and short-term.
Anyone care to comment on the direction the world is taking with hardware in not only computers, but even consoles?
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Exactly...and how is it in windows, double click, install, finished. I shouldn't need a masters degree in programming to use Linux.
You don't need a Masters Degree in programming to issue three commands on a command line. I know absolutely no C and I can compile software just fine. A few weeks ago I compiled Apache 2.0.36, PHP 4.2.1, Postfix and ProFTPd on a machine I'm in the process of setting up as a server. Granted installing binary packages is considerably easier, particularly under Red Hat (and other rpm baesd distros) since all you have to do is type rpm -ivv {package name}, but binary packages aren't available for all the major open source projects.
Quote:I just started downloading RedHat, and jesus, another complaint. Why the hell is the OS almost 2 GBs big? All I need is an OS, not a bloat boat.
You don't have to install everything on offer, you can cull an RH install down to about 600-700Mb. Other distros can install into even less than that.
Exactly...and how is it in windows, double click, install, finished. I shouldn't need a masters degree in programming to use Linux.
You don't need a Masters Degree in programming to issue three commands on a command line. I know absolutely no C and I can compile software just fine. A few weeks ago I compiled Apache 2.0.36, PHP 4.2.1, Postfix and ProFTPd on a machine I'm in the process of setting up as a server. Granted installing binary packages is considerably easier, particularly under Red Hat (and other rpm baesd distros) since all you have to do is type rpm -ivv {package name}, but binary packages aren't available for all the major open source projects.
Quote:I just started downloading RedHat, and jesus, another complaint. Why the hell is the OS almost 2 GBs big? All I need is an OS, not a bloat boat.
You don't have to install everything on offer, you can cull an RH install down to about 600-700Mb. Other distros can install into even less than that.
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You don't need a Masters Degree in programming to issue three commands on a command line. I know absolutely no C and I can compile software just fine. A few weeks ago I compiled Apache 2.0.36, PHP 4.2.1, Postfix and ProFTPd on a machine I'm in the process of setting up as a server. Granted installing binary packages is considerably easier, particularly under Red Hat (and other rpm baesd distros) since all you have to do is type rpm -ivv {package name}, but binary packages aren't available for all the major open source projects.
You don't have to install everything on offer, you can cull an RH install down to about 600-700Mb. Other distros can install into even less than that.
Oh, I believe that for a minute, but the point is, having to download 2 GB of waste, just to install only 600 to 700 MB of it. There should be a way to only have to download what you need, it's annoying. Time Remaining: 9 hours, 54 minutes. ;(
You don't need a Masters Degree in programming to issue three commands on a command line. I know absolutely no C and I can compile software just fine. A few weeks ago I compiled Apache 2.0.36, PHP 4.2.1, Postfix and ProFTPd on a machine I'm in the process of setting up as a server. Granted installing binary packages is considerably easier, particularly under Red Hat (and other rpm baesd distros) since all you have to do is type rpm -ivv {package name}, but binary packages aren't available for all the major open source projects.
You don't have to install everything on offer, you can cull an RH install down to about 600-700Mb. Other distros can install into even less than that.
Oh, I believe that for a minute, but the point is, having to download 2 GB of waste, just to install only 600 to 700 MB of it. There should be a way to only have to download what you need, it's annoying. Time Remaining: 9 hours, 54 minutes. ;(
Actually, it's possible (at least with older versions) to install Red Hat entirely from an FTP site. All you need is a boot disk (an image of which I presume can be downloaded from wherever you plan to do the install from) to start the installation and you're away.
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.3/en/os/i386/
Appears to be where Red Hat stash their RPMs. Dunno how long it's take to install it this way though...
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.3/en/os/i386/
Appears to be where Red Hat stash their RPMs. Dunno how long it's take to install it this way though...
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Actually, it's possible (at least with older versions) to install Red Hat entirely from an FTP site.
I did that with an old laptop. I hosted the original binaries on my IIS FTP box, and ran the install on my LAN. It didn't take too long, or at least it wasn't long enough to really annoy me.
Actually, it's possible (at least with older versions) to install Red Hat entirely from an FTP site.
I did that with an old laptop. I hosted the original binaries on my IIS FTP box, and ran the install on my LAN. It didn't take too long, or at least it wasn't long enough to really annoy me.
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Admiral LSD, you live up to your name (druggy) to think I would do that...I won't be pulling that move, it'll take twice as long to do it that way, hehe.
I'll just let it download, i'm going out tonight, so when I come back, it'll be damn near done.
That would be the most effective way to do it if you're concerned about downloading only what you need since only the packages you select will be downloaded and installed. Of course, if you're only on a 56k then that presents a problem... You could always buy on of those books that supply a complete distro as well as a concise guide to Linux for about USD.
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I did that with an old laptop. I hosted the original binaries on my IIS FTP box, and ran the install on my LAN. It didn't take too long, or at least it wasn't long enough to really annoy me.
Yeah, but you were dealing with LAN speeds of 10Mbps+, performing this install over the internet would probably take forever...
[size:9]Actually, I've never even seen LSD let alone taken it. The name comes from a combination of my earliest Internet nick, "Lysergic Acid Diethylimide" (yes, I know it's spelt wrong... It's become sort of a historical thing ) which for reasons I can't even begin to fathom was the first thing that popped into my head while trying to think up a screen name for Yahoo and my love of FreeSpace 2
Admiral LSD, you live up to your name (druggy) to think I would do that...I won't be pulling that move, it'll take twice as long to do it that way, hehe.
I'll just let it download, i'm going out tonight, so when I come back, it'll be damn near done.
That would be the most effective way to do it if you're concerned about downloading only what you need since only the packages you select will be downloaded and installed. Of course, if you're only on a 56k then that presents a problem... You could always buy on of those books that supply a complete distro as well as a concise guide to Linux for about USD.
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I did that with an old laptop. I hosted the original binaries on my IIS FTP box, and ran the install on my LAN. It didn't take too long, or at least it wasn't long enough to really annoy me.
Yeah, but you were dealing with LAN speeds of 10Mbps+, performing this install over the internet would probably take forever...
[size:9]Actually, I've never even seen LSD let alone taken it. The name comes from a combination of my earliest Internet nick, "Lysergic Acid Diethylimide" (yes, I know it's spelt wrong... It's become sort of a historical thing ) which for reasons I can't even begin to fathom was the first thing that popped into my head while trying to think up a screen name for Yahoo and my love of FreeSpace 2
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That would be the most effective way to do it if you're concerned about downloading only what you need since only the packages you select will be downloaded and installed. Of course, if you're only on a 56k then that presents a problem... You could always buy on of those books that supply a complete distro as well as a concise guide to Linux for about USD.
Yeah, but you were dealing with LAN speeds of 10Mbps+, performing this install over the internet would probably take forever...
[size:9]Actually, I've never even seen LSD let alone taken it. The name comes from a combination of my earliest Internet nick, "Lysergic Acid Diethylimide" (yes, I know it's spelt wrong... It's become sort of a historical thing ) which for reasons I can't even begin to fathom was the first thing that popped into my head while trying to think up a screen name for Yahoo and my love of FreeSpace 2
I like stories
That would be the most effective way to do it if you're concerned about downloading only what you need since only the packages you select will be downloaded and installed. Of course, if you're only on a 56k then that presents a problem... You could always buy on of those books that supply a complete distro as well as a concise guide to Linux for about USD.
Yeah, but you were dealing with LAN speeds of 10Mbps+, performing this install over the internet would probably take forever...
[size:9]Actually, I've never even seen LSD let alone taken it. The name comes from a combination of my earliest Internet nick, "Lysergic Acid Diethylimide" (yes, I know it's spelt wrong... It's become sort of a historical thing ) which for reasons I can't even begin to fathom was the first thing that popped into my head while trying to think up a screen name for Yahoo and my love of FreeSpace 2
I like stories
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lol, not sure you should be telling us that you are illegally downloading software.
I a not downloading it, I moved Istanbul and hooked up with a 56K.
My calculater would probably give an error trying to calculate the time required and it has 64KB memory
If i wanted illegal SW, i can buy it on the street opposite University's for about 2 million TL per CD. That makes roughly £1 or $1.50.
Also I just paid $950 for it a week ago. So don't need it anyway...
lol, not sure you should be telling us that you are illegally downloading software.
I a not downloading it, I moved Istanbul and hooked up with a 56K.
My calculater would probably give an error trying to calculate the time required and it has 64KB memory
If i wanted illegal SW, i can buy it on the street opposite University's for about 2 million TL per CD. That makes roughly £1 or $1.50.
Also I just paid $950 for it a week ago. So don't need it anyway...
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And i just found Visual Studio .Net Professional (all 5 CD's) on UKC Mainframe....
(I have a username and password and getting a friends files for her.)
Visual Studio.NET is so awsome upgraded from VS 6 about a month or 2 ago and it has just been great
And i just found Visual Studio .Net Professional (all 5 CD's) on UKC Mainframe....
(I have a username and password and getting a friends files for her.)
Visual Studio.NET is so awsome upgraded from VS 6 about a month or 2 ago and it has just been great
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Visual Studio.NET is so awsome upgraded from VS 6 about a month or 2 ago and it has just been great
I agree its certainly a worthwile upgrade for once. Anyone tried the free J# addon yet? I quite liked the J++ IDE although a non sun standard implementation of Java which caused a few problems but easily fixed.
Visual Studio.NET is so awsome upgraded from VS 6 about a month or 2 ago and it has just been great
I agree its certainly a worthwile upgrade for once. Anyone tried the free J# addon yet? I quite liked the J++ IDE although a non sun standard implementation of Java which caused a few problems but easily fixed.
