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Ok people. We have all been suffering discrimination from the software and hardware companies because we are Win2k gamers.
This game won't run, that game won't run, that "new" rip *ss videocard and soundcard has broken or non-existent drivers.
We have the best gaming OS on the market today bar-none.
So why does a mega-company like EA still put out games like Superbike 2000, which is supposed to be the definitive bike game this year, and it won't get past the first loading screen.
Somebody who visits this site must have the education and programming experience to figure out how to get that game to run in Win2k.
The gauntlet is dropped. I will send anyone who can get this game to run on my system with full hardware acceleration, a money order for US$35.00. You have my guarantee on that. My ebay user id is: vburns@cancom.net , and if you check that in the feedback forum, you will see that I deliver on my obligations.
Good luck, and lets see what the forum members have got in their repertoire.
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This game won't run, that game won't run, that "new" rip *ss videocard and soundcard has broken or non-existent drivers.
We have the best gaming OS on the market today bar-none.
So why does a mega-company like EA still put out games like Superbike 2000, which is supposed to be the definitive bike game this year, and it won't get past the first loading screen.
Somebody who visits this site must have the education and programming experience to figure out how to get that game to run in Win2k.
The gauntlet is dropped. I will send anyone who can get this game to run on my system with full hardware acceleration, a money order for US$35.00. You have my guarantee on that. My ebay user id is: vburns@cancom.net , and if you check that in the feedback forum, you will see that I deliver on my obligations.
Good luck, and lets see what the forum members have got in their repertoire.
:-)
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Using the Kernel is a lot different from Win2k OS.. They're using the Kernel because of the HAL, it'll prevent the programers from directly accessing the hardware. Unlike 9x where it's allowed. Just because They're using a "HIGHLY" modified version of w2k doesn't confirm w2k is for games. They way it's programmed is not meant for games. It's harder to do stuff. I know what i'm talking about. See the MCSE below my name? It's all in the training
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Volitaire
A+, MCSE, MCP+I, ACT
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Volitaire
A+, MCSE, MCP+I, ACT
yea, i saw lots of screenshots, are they doing away with the START menu in the gold version of Whistler, i heard the gui was supposed to be totally revamped
A simple question for Volitaire.
If win2k is *not* a gaming OS and Whistler is a point release on win2k and will be a gaming OS - ie there will be no more 9x. Isn't it fair to say then that win2k is in fact a gaming OS and that MS is just trying to bilk us out of one more lot of $150 for a superceded operating system? Or what other rationale can you put up that when Win-Me is still not in circulation and its replacement is less than a year away?
I wait with baited breath for your reply
If win2k is *not* a gaming OS and Whistler is a point release on win2k and will be a gaming OS - ie there will be no more 9x. Isn't it fair to say then that win2k is in fact a gaming OS and that MS is just trying to bilk us out of one more lot of $150 for a superceded operating system? Or what other rationale can you put up that when Win-Me is still not in circulation and its replacement is less than a year away?
I wait with baited breath for your reply
"See the MCSE below my name? It's all in the training"
Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahaah!
DosFreaks wipes a tear from his eye.
That was great Volitaire...really best laugh I had all day.
Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahaah!
DosFreaks wipes a tear from his eye.
That was great Volitaire...really best laugh I had all day.
Volitaire,
It may be harder to write code for the HAL, but I believe the benefits are reaped.
I would like to think that ME will be the last 9x kernel. I'm pretty much sick of it.
It may be harder to write code for the HAL, but I believe the benefits are reaped.
I would like to think that ME will be the last 9x kernel. I'm pretty much sick of it.
Voltaire:
"It's harder to do stuff. I know what i'm talking about."
Well, I guess I don't. I mean, at least during my MCSE classes, the term "It's harder to do stuff" never came up when talking about the HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer-the thing that there seems to be a hang-up on). But, here is what I have gathered from classes and using these machines. It would seem that the only thing limiting NT for gaming was the lack of DX upgrades past DX3 and the fact that the OpenGL drivers were usually not so hot for games (insert MCD vs ICD discussion here ). Seeing as in the DOS days people were programming to the hardware directly via the drivers you needed the direct access. The only problem was that you would have a ton of different hardware/driver combos that a machine could have. But with DX, you could just program to DX, and DX would work directly with the drivers. This way, a programmer would work with a common hardware interface that would work on many systems at one time. I mean think about it, Q3 works great in NT as long as you have SP3 or above (DX3) and a decent video card/driver set. And the main reason was the HAL was used was to prevent errant user mode processes from sucking the life out of the hardware resources with eternal crashing. This is why the NT4 executive loads the HAL in the first of its 5 load phases. I would think that with the X-Box using PC hardware it would use similar PC drivers and therefore be easily ported to the non-gaming Win2K OS.
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clutch
"It's harder to do stuff. I know what i'm talking about."
Well, I guess I don't. I mean, at least during my MCSE classes, the term "It's harder to do stuff" never came up when talking about the HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer-the thing that there seems to be a hang-up on). But, here is what I have gathered from classes and using these machines. It would seem that the only thing limiting NT for gaming was the lack of DX upgrades past DX3 and the fact that the OpenGL drivers were usually not so hot for games (insert MCD vs ICD discussion here ). Seeing as in the DOS days people were programming to the hardware directly via the drivers you needed the direct access. The only problem was that you would have a ton of different hardware/driver combos that a machine could have. But with DX, you could just program to DX, and DX would work directly with the drivers. This way, a programmer would work with a common hardware interface that would work on many systems at one time. I mean think about it, Q3 works great in NT as long as you have SP3 or above (DX3) and a decent video card/driver set. And the main reason was the HAL was used was to prevent errant user mode processes from sucking the life out of the hardware resources with eternal crashing. This is why the NT4 executive loads the HAL in the first of its 5 load phases. I would think that with the X-Box using PC hardware it would use similar PC drivers and therefore be easily ported to the non-gaming Win2K OS.
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Regards,
clutch
Win2k was meant to replace the 9X kernel OSes entirely, this was the plan until Beta2 of Win2k (NT5 build 1877) when they figured out how they didn't have enough time. Unfortunately they couldn't build in all the cool features and driver support that they wanted to in the time they had left before they needed to ship. MS missed their ship schedule by around a year trying to get 2000 totally perfect. This the reason for Whistler (as far as I can tell) is to try to get a the cool things they just didn't have time to implement in Win2k. WinME will be the last of the 9X kernel OSes, if for no other reason than its costing MS way too much to continue to develop and support the two different OSes.
I have yet to see anything from MS claiming that Win2k was designed for businesses only. Its true that Win2k wasn't primarily intended to be used for gaming, but I know that many incompatibility bugs with games were specifically targeted and fixed. MS makes far less off of individuals who are purchasing (or stealing it off the web...) Win2k for personal use, they're more concerned about having business systems up for 24x7 since there'll be far more companies actually purchasing it.
MS knows that Win2k is huge, they've placed the entire company's future on it. That's why it's so great.
I have yet to see anything from MS claiming that Win2k was designed for businesses only. Its true that Win2k wasn't primarily intended to be used for gaming, but I know that many incompatibility bugs with games were specifically targeted and fixed. MS makes far less off of individuals who are purchasing (or stealing it off the web...) Win2k for personal use, they're more concerned about having business systems up for 24x7 since there'll be far more companies actually purchasing it.
MS knows that Win2k is huge, they've placed the entire company's future on it. That's why it's so great.
So is whistler really that cool? I love Win2K. The only thing that has crshed it hard for me was PowerDVD (ver. 2.55). It did it once and that's been the only prob I have had in the last 2.5 months. Is whistler faster? Does it have more gadgets? What are we instore for in changes?
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Regards,
clutch
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Regards,
clutch
go here:
http://www.winsupersite.com/
it give a little info on Windows Neptune and Whistler, not to mention WinME beta3
http://www.winsupersite.com/
it give a little info on Windows Neptune and Whistler, not to mention WinME beta3
