NTFS without the BS
Is there anyway to disable all of the security BS in NTFS? I realise that it has its uses for some people, but I just want to use it on a spare HDD for its larger-than-4GB file limit feature. I fornatted the drive as NTFS, & it promptly created a System Volume Information folder.
Is there anyway to disable all of the security BS in NTFS? I realise that it has its uses for some people, but I just want to use it on a spare HDD for its larger-than-4GB file limit feature.
I fornatted the drive as NTFS, & it promptly created a System Volume Information folder. So I went to the settings for System Restore & disabled it for that drive & tried to delete it, but it wouldn't let me.
There's only me that uses this machine, & it's just the 1 renamed Administrator-level account.
Also, I tried copying a small file over to the drive, to see if it would let me delete that - it did, but then it created a folder called Recycler - not Recycled. It didn't have the normal Recycle Bin icon, just a normal folder icon, & it's right-click context menu doesn't have an Empty option. WTF???
I fornatted the drive as NTFS, & it promptly created a System Volume Information folder. So I went to the settings for System Restore & disabled it for that drive & tried to delete it, but it wouldn't let me.
There's only me that uses this machine, & it's just the 1 renamed Administrator-level account.
Also, I tried copying a small file over to the drive, to see if it would let me delete that - it did, but then it created a folder called Recycler - not Recycled. It didn't have the normal Recycle Bin icon, just a normal folder icon, & it's right-click context menu doesn't have an Empty option. WTF???
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Recycler IS the recycle bin directory for NTFS partitions.
You can not right-click and choose Empty on that folder. You must go within the folder and then right-click on the subfolders...or simply delete all of the subfolders.
Check out www.xteq.com and download X-setup 6.2. It includes options for disabling NTFS features. Why is security so much of a concern for you? As long as you assign permissions there is no trouble whatsoever and if your part of the admin group you don't even need to do that.
You can not right-click and choose Empty on that folder. You must go within the folder and then right-click on the subfolders...or simply delete all of the subfolders.
Check out www.xteq.com and download X-setup 6.2. It includes options for disabling NTFS features. Why is security so much of a concern for you? As long as you assign permissions there is no trouble whatsoever and if your part of the admin group you don't even need to do that.
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Recycler IS the recycle bin directory for NTFS partitions.
You can not right-click and choose Empty on that folder. You must go within the folder and then right-click on the subfolders...or simply delete all of the subfolders.You'd think that with this latest incarnation of NT that's supposed to bridge the gap between home & work environments that they'd make NTFS a bit more user-friendly, so that ppl used to doing simple things like using the recycle bin don't have to change their way of doing things.Quote:Check out www.xteq.com and download X-setup 6.2. It includes options for disabling NTFS features.Cool, I I didn't realise 6.2 had gone final.Quote:Why is security so much of a concern for you? As long as you assign permissions there is no trouble whatsoever and if your part of the admin group you don't even need to do that. I don't mind having security if I have a need for it, but in this instance I don't. I'm the only person with access to this machine, & it's just gonna be used for video files. Also, & I realise this sounds trivial, but HTF do I delete the System Volume Information folder? I've turned off monitoring for that drive, & I tried turning its Read Only attribute off, but when I look @ its properties again it's on again. I understand how with the C:\windows & C:\Program FIles folders, etc, that there is stuff that's protected, but if i can delete the SVI folder on my FAT32 partitions that aren't being monitored, why can't I do it on my NTFS drive? Don't tell me that's another feature of NTFS as well???
Recycler IS the recycle bin directory for NTFS partitions.
You can not right-click and choose Empty on that folder. You must go within the folder and then right-click on the subfolders...or simply delete all of the subfolders.You'd think that with this latest incarnation of NT that's supposed to bridge the gap between home & work environments that they'd make NTFS a bit more user-friendly, so that ppl used to doing simple things like using the recycle bin don't have to change their way of doing things.Quote:Check out www.xteq.com and download X-setup 6.2. It includes options for disabling NTFS features.Cool, I I didn't realise 6.2 had gone final.Quote:Why is security so much of a concern for you? As long as you assign permissions there is no trouble whatsoever and if your part of the admin group you don't even need to do that. I don't mind having security if I have a need for it, but in this instance I don't. I'm the only person with access to this machine, & it's just gonna be used for video files. Also, & I realise this sounds trivial, but HTF do I delete the System Volume Information folder? I've turned off monitoring for that drive, & I tried turning its Read Only attribute off, but when I look @ its properties again it's on again. I understand how with the C:\windows & C:\Program FIles folders, etc, that there is stuff that's protected, but if i can delete the SVI folder on my FAT32 partitions that aren't being monitored, why can't I do it on my NTFS drive? Don't tell me that's another feature of NTFS as well???
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Is there anyway to disable all of the security BS in NTFS?
Get XP Home Edition
Also, I don't think you can delete the System Volume Information folder. I don't know where people got this idea that it's part of System Restore since I noticed it on my 2k NTFS drives and System Restore wasn't even a part of Win2k. I'm thinking it's where the journal for the filesystem is stored but I can't really be sure of that.
Is there anyway to disable all of the security BS in NTFS?
Get XP Home Edition
Also, I don't think you can delete the System Volume Information folder. I don't know where people got this idea that it's part of System Restore since I noticed it on my 2k NTFS drives and System Restore wasn't even a part of Win2k. I'm thinking it's where the journal for the filesystem is stored but I can't really be sure of that.
The system restore points are stored in a subdirectory that folder. Also to access the folder, you need to give yourself permission to the folder as on SYSTEM has access by default.
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The system restore points are stored in a subdirectory that folder. Also to access the folder, you need to give yourself permission to the folder as on SYSTEM has access by default. I tried that, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Anyway, as it is only a few KB in size I may as well leave it.
The system restore points are stored in a subdirectory that folder. Also to access the folder, you need to give yourself permission to the folder as on SYSTEM has access by default. I tried that, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Anyway, as it is only a few KB in size I may as well leave it.
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I tried that, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Anyway, as it is only a few KB in size I may as well leave it.
That'd probably be the best thing to do. There's obviously a reason (no matter how convoluted, we are talking about M$ here not a good idea).
I tried that, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Anyway, as it is only a few KB in size I may as well leave it.
That'd probably be the best thing to do. There's obviously a reason (no matter how convoluted, we are talking about M$ here not a good idea).
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Journal?
29th June 2002
Dear diary, today my user deleted some files & defragged me, today was a good day.
Actually, thats quite an apt description. A journaling filesystem works by logging all filesystem activity to a central location or journal. Then, in the event of a forced unmount (such as a power failure) the filesystem can follow the journal and know exactly where data errors are likely to be thus avoiding the necessity of a complete disk check.
Journal?
29th June 2002
Dear diary, today my user deleted some files & defragged me, today was a good day.
Actually, thats quite an apt description. A journaling filesystem works by logging all filesystem activity to a central location or journal. Then, in the event of a forced unmount (such as a power failure) the filesystem can follow the journal and know exactly where data errors are likely to be thus avoiding the necessity of a complete disk check.
