Here is the driver comparison under 3DMark 2000 v1.1 (Default Benchmark):
 
1024x768x32bpp:
 
 
12.41 - 5309
8.04 - 5555
14.10 - 5188
14.40 - 5180
 
I had to do the benchmark on the 14.10's twice cause i couldn't believe that they were that bad. Did the same with the 14.40's, the highest i got was 5180.
 
BTW, i might add that all of my benchmarks are done with:
 
-cpu set at the default 667MHz (133) setting
-ram is set to cas2. pc133

Eddie I dunno what graphics card you used for those benchmarks but with a GF3 and a 1ghz P3 I get about 7558 3dmarks in 3Dmark 2000.
 
Just in case you wanted to know.

I think he has a 3D Prophet II
 
I think anyways.

He has an MX-based card I believe.

Hercules 3D Prophet II MX 32MB AGP4x (Core: DefaultMHz, Mem: DefaultMHz)
 
when i had my p3 1ghz and 512mb more ram and this card overclocked i got 6830 3DMarks in 3DMark 2000. pretty good for a budget card.
 
Here were my specs for the screenshot below:
 
"abit vh6, pentium 3 1GHz, alpha pep66t 38cfm hsf, 768mb pc133 cas2, 3d prophet ii mx 32mb (core:200 mem:210), hollywood plus dvd decoder, pioneer 16x dvdrom, plextor 12x/10x/32x, Seagate 30gb, windows xp pro rc1 2481, detonator 10.80 win2k."
 
 

Here are my results:
 
Windows 2000 3dmark2001:
 
3181 3dmarks (1024x768 32 bit no FSAA)(asus 12.60 detonator)
 
Windows XP 3dmark2001:
 
2863 3dmarks (1024x768 32 bit no FSAA)(nvidia 14.20 detonator)
 
I always thought windows XP was faser then windows 2000.
 
This was run on a AMD 1200 MHZ, MSI k7t pro 2a, asus v7700 deluxe, 512 MB memory.
 
Any comments on this?

its strange, my scores in 3dmark 2000 jumped 1900points going from Win2k to WinXP.

I cracked on my XP animosity. I am installing RC1 on my duallie rig, and have a dual boot with Win2k as a backup.
I'll let ya know how my GF2MX200 scores. It's just a generic one by eVGA with 6ns ram, so I'm not holding my hopes too high.
Not ditching Win2k yet, but I'm trying XP again with the new release. Haven't done anything since Beta2 and my Voodoo3 (had to pull it out for XP )

Once you see that XP boot you'll definetly start thinking more about Linux. (THANK YOU MICROSOFT!)

what you you mean DosFreak?

I tested my system with 3dmark2000 v1.1 too the same results as with 3dmark2001 I get lower scores with XP then I do with 2000, it's really p!$$!ng me off, I don't know what I 'm doing wrong.
 
Anyway here are the results:
 
detonator 14.20 nvidia
 
3dmark2000 in W2K: 6758 3dmarks
3dmark2000 in XP: 6219 3dmarks
 
Do you guy make any tweaks or change anything to let XP fly faster?
I don't know what the problem is XP is even on a faster hdd (7200 rpm), normally this would be a advantage too.

try a different set of drivers, like the 8.04's, i found the 14.20's to suck compared to the 8.04's.

I know the 12.41's WHQL ran UT fine, but they sucked *** when playing HL and that whole slew of addons. I've yet to try out Serious Sam, but if UT was any indication, its going to rock.
And this was on an MX 200 with only a 64-bit path. It sucked so hard under Win2k it wasn't funny.

Look, 75% of this threads are dealing with 3DMark, but actually it are ONLY about syntetic benchmarks, with no true relations with real games speed/compatibility! Why do I'm saying that? Because when I changed from 12.41 to 12.90 I got almost 300 increment points with 3DMark2001, but games became slughish/corrupted. Then I tried 14.20. It gave me only 200 points than 12.41 but keeping game speed/stability (and coolbits works with it!!). SO, I think I make my point clear. Don't stick with 3DMark results cause we meant to play games, not watch fancy anymations (hmmm, sounds like Diablo 2 ), so relay more on gaming XPerience than syntetic b*ll $h!t.
 
My specs:
 
Asus A7V
Duron 750@1009
Hercules Prophet II MX (210/193)
Windows XP 2526

yeah, fancy animations like that lobby scene...
 
oh wait, that was the Max Payne engine in use there - doh! Real game!

I have gaming XPerience, i have noticed a gain in speed after switching to WinXP with the 8.04 drivers.....i happen to thnk 3dmark is a very good benchmarking utility, others would seem to agree.
 

Quote:.....Don't stick with 3DMark results cause we meant to play games, not watch fancy anymations (hmmm, sounds like Diablo 2 ), so relay more on gaming XPerience than syntetic b*ll $h!t.

Yes, I have to agree. 3DMark2000/2001 are a good benchmark, and I use it too. Wadda I mean is 3DMark are ONLY benchmark, not related to real gaming experience, with this everyone have to agree. What we need is good gaming experinece first, and sintertyc benchs second. Even with 2 identical systems, we got diferent 3DMark results. Having 7000 points with texture artifacts doesn't mean you will get 300fps in QuakeIII (actually, anyone still play this?).
 
Well, and about that new Hercules drivers in the post subject
Oh, yes, I almost forgot that! After months using only nVidia Detonator reference drivers, I never come back too see if Hercules released new drivers. After a quick peek at Hercules site, I discovered they released an 12.41 Hercules driver! You may say: "big deal, but what about it?". When I first installed my Prophet II MX, it only worked 100% fast and stable with Hercules 6.50 drivers (WinMe). When I upgraded to Windows XP 2505, I tried the 12.41 reference drivers, and it work very well. So, having the same good working drivers, specialy tweaked to my cart, why not use it? Oh, yes, I installed it, and... they R0><0R!!!1 Without any kind of tweak or overclock, it benched 3DMark 2001 faster than 12.90/14.20/12.41(ref) and Max Payne are faster and stable too!!!
With 12.90, my best 3DMark results under XP (2505/2526) so far, I got 2432, using all tweaks&tricks and o/cing to 210/200. After installed, the 12.41 Hercules drivers gave me 2384!!! Later I will try all tweaks and see how much juice we can squiise!!!
 
SO (again), if u get a very good benchmark results, and your games rox, you are at 7th haven, you are in the bees knees!!

the problem is that i'm not going to install a 600-700MB game just to run a torture demo on my system, 3dmark is the most logical thing for me to use, i agree that it IS synthetic, but thats all there is.

Woa! Did u tried install games just for play and have fun with then? Just kidding
Actually, the focus of most the threads are about personal machines. If u just run computers for personal use, you have to use it more than test it.
BUT, if you are an reseler, you really need quick and simple tools to try and test your products.
 
Then again, if someone are using a computer just for benchmarking, okie dokie, but it's a bit silly, don't you think?

EddiE314 posted he ussed the 8.04, so I thought I install those too.
Here are my findings:
 
Nvidia 8.04:
-3dmark2000 6955 3d marks (finally an increase in performance)
 
-3dmark2001 wil only run until up until the lobby and then it drops me back to windows wich got me thinking about the max payne engine in the 3dmark2001 benchmark, I started max payne with the same result it drops me back to windows after a few seconds of gameplay. I have tested the same results with these drivers of nvidia: 7.76, 8.03, 7.59. On the other hand I tested these drivers wich worked fine with 3dmark2001 and max payne(I know same engine and stuff): 12.60, 12.90, 14.20 and 14.40 (for some benchmark results look in earlier post of mine).
 
Is there anyone who can verify these findings?