permissions setup in XP
I have just put on 4 new user accounts on my XP box. My account is the only admin one, and the other are limited accounts. Now I want to set permissions on certain folders that the other accounts can not access.
I have just put on 4 new user accounts on my XP box. My account is the only admin one, and the other are limited accounts. Now I want to set permissions on certain folders that the other accounts can not access. I try right clicking them, then in the properties under the sharring tab, were it says "to make this folder privite, so that only you can access it check the box" but its all 'greyed out' so I cant check it off to set permissions. Any idea how I can set permissions on certain folders in XP?
Thanx,
Masterfinn
Thanx,
Masterfinn
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You could try setting network security to classic.
Go to Administrative Tools/Security Policies/Local Policies/Security/Networkaccess/Sharing and security for local accounts - (Set this one to classic)
I'm not sure about all the "keys" but I hope you can stumble your way to the right place I'm not using the english version of XP, sorry.
Good Luck!
Go to Administrative Tools/Security Policies/Local Policies/Security/Networkaccess/Sharing and security for local accounts - (Set this one to classic)
I'm not sure about all the "keys" but I hope you can stumble your way to the right place I'm not using the english version of XP, sorry.
Good Luck!
Ya Suma, i tired what you said, and it let me set the permissions and i tinkered with it for a while, but after i set the permissions i went in on other account and i could still access those folders completely. So im not to sure if im doing something wrong or what?.. anywyas... Also, Alien, i have my system as FAT32 right now, and to me that seems like it would be the problem, but you should be able to set permissions without having it as NTFS, but i dont know. Ill have to look into it, or if any one out there knows, let me know.
Thanx,
Masterfinn
Thanx,
Masterfinn
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Also, Alien, i have my system as FAT32 right now, and to me that seems like it would be the problem, but you should be able to set permissions without having it as NTFS, but i dont know. Ill have to look into it, or if any one out there knows, let me know.AFAIK, security options & permissions are an integral part of NTFS, but not of FAT32. I've never heard of anyone being able to do what you want with FAT32.
Also, Alien, i have my system as FAT32 right now, and to me that seems like it would be the problem, but you should be able to set permissions without having it as NTFS, but i dont know. Ill have to look into it, or if any one out there knows, let me know.AFAIK, security options & permissions are an integral part of NTFS, but not of FAT32. I've never heard of anyone being able to do what you want with FAT32.
ya i figured that i needed to have NTFS file system. I will probably switch over to that, so i can set permission and stuff, rather then getting an ecryption program as you say. I was thinking about doing a reformat and clean install of my hard drive some time soon anyways, so now when i do that i can just redoo it as NTFS so that i can have multiple users with all the permissions that i want.
BUT before i do that. I have a question. I have my 40G hard drive in 4 partions, now do i have to put my whole hard drive as NTFS? or just the primary partion?
Thanx,
Masterfinn
BUT before i do that. I have a question. I have my 40G hard drive in 4 partions, now do i have to put my whole hard drive as NTFS? or just the primary partion?
Thanx,
Masterfinn
Ya i know i can just make only the partitions that i want to NTFS, but what i want to know is, ... say i have my main primary partition as NTFS and the other 3 as FAT32. Will i still be able to set the permissions on those other three partitions? or just on the one that is NTFS?
Masterfinn
Masterfinn
Ok so it looks like ill have to change my whole system to NTFS. I dont know if i want to though cause i dotn know if all the stuff on my computer will work good on an NTFS platform. IS there any other advantages/disadvatages or NTFS to FAT32 that i should know about before switching over? I guess i did run Win2K before and had no problems, but i dont know about XP.
Thanx,
Masterfinn
Thanx,
Masterfinn
NTFS advantages:
Security through the use of file and folder permissions.
Security through the use of EFS (encrypting file system).
Use of compressed files/folders.
Use of spanned, striped, or mirrored volumes through disk management.
Setting disk quotas for users is available.
Smaller cluster size=better disk performance.
Error control - you will almost never have to run scandisk/chkdsk
Large volume size - up to 2 terabytes (FAT32 was 32GB max)
Large file size - up to the size of the partition.
Disadvantages:
Cannot be accessed by DOS, Win9x
Learning curve for permissions for noobs.
You do not need to reformat to change from FAT to NTFS.
Use the command line program convert. Open a command window (in run box type cmd) and type "convert C: /FS:NTFS" without the quotes. This will convert the C: drive. Change the drive letter to the drive you want. It will ask you to reboot to do this to the system partition. You cannot convert back to FAT from NTFS!
Security through the use of file and folder permissions.
Security through the use of EFS (encrypting file system).
Use of compressed files/folders.
Use of spanned, striped, or mirrored volumes through disk management.
Setting disk quotas for users is available.
Smaller cluster size=better disk performance.
Error control - you will almost never have to run scandisk/chkdsk
Large volume size - up to 2 terabytes (FAT32 was 32GB max)
Large file size - up to the size of the partition.
Disadvantages:
Cannot be accessed by DOS, Win9x
Learning curve for permissions for noobs.
You do not need to reformat to change from FAT to NTFS.
Use the command line program convert. Open a command window (in run box type cmd) and type "convert C: /FS:NTFS" without the quotes. This will convert the C: drive. Change the drive letter to the drive you want. It will ask you to reboot to do this to the system partition. You cannot convert back to FAT from NTFS!
it sure sounds like NTFS is they way to go. i knew that Win9x coudnt access it, but i dont really know everything, like say i had an FTP set up on a NTFS partition, and a person on a Win9x box tried to access that FTP would they be able to see it? or access it? Or if some of my games or programs said they were WinXP complient. is that WinXP NTFS or/and WinXP FAT32? also if some of my older games that i love playing that work great now on XP in FAT32 whats the chance they will still work on the NTFS platform?
thanx,
Masterfinn
thanx,
Masterfinn
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Cannot be accessed by DOS, Win9x
Thats a bad thing because?
Personally I see no logical reason for not using NTFS for at least your main NT/2k/XP partition.
Cannot be accessed by DOS, Win9x
Thats a bad thing because?
Personally I see no logical reason for not using NTFS for at least your main NT/2k/XP partition.
I'm using NTFS and you can use my FTP.
Quote:Cannot be accessed by DOS, Win9x
That could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective.
Ok, here's a simple non-technical explanation of file access:
The operating system does the file access work for the programs. Whether a file or folder is NTFS or FAT matters only to the operating system at this level. When other programs access the file, they are asking the operating system to access it for them. So the program (such as a game or ftp proggie) doesn't know or care if it is NTFS or FAT.
That could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective.
Ok, here's a simple non-technical explanation of file access:
The operating system does the file access work for the programs. Whether a file or folder is NTFS or FAT matters only to the operating system at this level. When other programs access the file, they are asking the operating system to access it for them. So the program (such as a game or ftp proggie) doesn't know or care if it is NTFS or FAT.
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No game I have tried in NT4/2000/XP has ever failed because of the NTFS file system and I have tested 1000+ games....
SHS stated that there was one game that had issues because of using NTFS, and I still don't understand why it would since the OS handles all of the disk access, not the game.
No game I have tried in NT4/2000/XP has ever failed because of the NTFS file system and I have tested 1000+ games....
SHS stated that there was one game that had issues because of using NTFS, and I still don't understand why it would since the OS handles all of the disk access, not the game.
So everything i have been hearing here is nothing but good for NTFS, and that i do indeed need it for my permission setups. Also i can see it is very secure, and that the OS handles all the disk access for programs and games and that they will all run great weither I have a FAT32 or NTFS system. I guess now, when i decide to, i can switch my system over to NTFS, and tweak it to perfection, jsut the way i like it.
A big Thank you, goes out to everyone helping me on this,
Masterfinn
A big Thank you, goes out to everyone helping me on this,
Masterfinn
