Price of XP Pro? ......Hopefully not as much as Win2k Pro, L
Actualy, the only reason ive never tried Win2k Pro as of yet is becuase it cost to much! From the EB website: Windows 2000 Professional Full (Usually Ships Within 24 Hours) (Ships to U. S. Only) Price: $269.
Actualy, the only reason ive never tried Win2k Pro as of yet is becuase it cost to much! From the EB website:
Windows 2000 Professional Full
(Usually Ships Within 24 Hours)
(Ships to U.S. Only)
Price: $269.99
Category: Home Office
ESRB Rating: N/A
Get farkin real!! I wouldnt pay that much to have Bill Gates himself kiss my full moon, lol! And people wonder why w4r3z is so popular these days! THE AVERAGE PERSON CANT AFFORD SOFTWARE THESE DAYS BECUASE OF EVERYTHING BEING >OVERPRICED<!!! So do you guys think XP Pro will be priced better? (Fuck home edition, dual cpu "support" should be standard these days) I'd say the prices below are what I would consider fair and keep me from going the w4r3z route:
Promo upgrade: $50.00
Upgrade: $70.00
Full: $129.00 ($150.00 absolute maximum )
Whats your guys opinion on what the prices should be for XP Pro? I personally think they'd make more money lowering the prices=more people pay for it!
Read this article sometime when you get the chance: (you to Micro$oft )
Quote:<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> But in my opinion, many software companies fail to understand the very market they serve, and should seek a better balance between what they charge and how many copies they hope to sell. It is clear to me that, as computers and music hardware become cheaper by the week, the real growth is happening at the low end. I would much prefer to sell 70,000 copies of a program for than 1,000 copies for 9, but it seems many companies are unable to understand this basic marketing concept. Moreover, the more a company charges for a product, the more irrational and protective they become. I know from my own success as a software company president that the key to making a lot of money is to sell a great product for a great price, and without alienating the very customers you depend on. </font>
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/739DF48C566E1D33862567DE001BE355
READ IT!
[This message has been edited by Questionnaire (edited 17 April 2001).]
Windows 2000 Professional Full
(Usually Ships Within 24 Hours)
(Ships to U.S. Only)
Price: $269.99
Category: Home Office
ESRB Rating: N/A
Get farkin real!! I wouldnt pay that much to have Bill Gates himself kiss my full moon, lol! And people wonder why w4r3z is so popular these days! THE AVERAGE PERSON CANT AFFORD SOFTWARE THESE DAYS BECUASE OF EVERYTHING BEING >OVERPRICED<!!! So do you guys think XP Pro will be priced better? (Fuck home edition, dual cpu "support" should be standard these days) I'd say the prices below are what I would consider fair and keep me from going the w4r3z route:
Promo upgrade: $50.00
Upgrade: $70.00
Full: $129.00 ($150.00 absolute maximum )
Whats your guys opinion on what the prices should be for XP Pro? I personally think they'd make more money lowering the prices=more people pay for it!
Read this article sometime when you get the chance: (you to Micro$oft )
Quote:<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> But in my opinion, many software companies fail to understand the very market they serve, and should seek a better balance between what they charge and how many copies they hope to sell. It is clear to me that, as computers and music hardware become cheaper by the week, the real growth is happening at the low end. I would much prefer to sell 70,000 copies of a program for than 1,000 copies for 9, but it seems many companies are unable to understand this basic marketing concept. Moreover, the more a company charges for a product, the more irrational and protective they become. I know from my own success as a software company president that the key to making a lot of money is to sell a great product for a great price, and without alienating the very customers you depend on. </font>
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/739DF48C566E1D33862567DE001BE355
READ IT!
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"and what if i decide that i want to run dual cpu's for sh1ts and giggles? does that mean i should go out and buy Pro after i've bought Personal?"
Why shouldn't you have to go out and purchase the Pro edition?
You made your choice, you purchased the home edition, what makes you think your entitled to some kind of free upgrade?
If I go out and buy a 1.6L car and then in the future decide I want more power, should I be able to go back and get a free engine upgrade to 1.8L?
You will take a look at the list of features of each version of the OS and base your purchase on this.
So you don't have a dual-CPU now, but you are considering one in the future then why are you even contemplating the Home edition?
You know that this wont support dual-CPU's so it shouldn't even be an option to you.
As with everything computer related you should never false economise, always buy more than you need and grow into it rather than purchasing exactly what you need at that time and finding you have out-grown it a few months later.
I really don't see why people have such an issue with having to actually go out and buy a copy of an OS for every machine they own.
If you don't want to spend the money then don't but why people feel the world or rather MS owes them a living is beyond me.
Why shouldn't you have to go out and purchase the Pro edition?
You made your choice, you purchased the home edition, what makes you think your entitled to some kind of free upgrade?
If I go out and buy a 1.6L car and then in the future decide I want more power, should I be able to go back and get a free engine upgrade to 1.8L?
You will take a look at the list of features of each version of the OS and base your purchase on this.
So you don't have a dual-CPU now, but you are considering one in the future then why are you even contemplating the Home edition?
You know that this wont support dual-CPU's so it shouldn't even be an option to you.
As with everything computer related you should never false economise, always buy more than you need and grow into it rather than purchasing exactly what you need at that time and finding you have out-grown it a few months later.
I really don't see why people have such an issue with having to actually go out and buy a copy of an OS for every machine they own.
If you don't want to spend the money then don't but why people feel the world or rather MS owes them a living is beyond me.
Number one, I 100% agree with what EddiE just said. No quoting needed here. Number two, since even on the M$ site they said somewhere that they expect a fair majority of home users that are power users to be using pro and on the other hand they said they realized that a fair amount might use home for business! Now let me get to my next point- The whole point, the big shindig over XP was it's finaly merging the business OS with the home user. Hasnt this been the main thing since we all heard about it(XP)? So dividing them once again is kinda defeating the big thing thats its suppose to be about! Why not just can lame home edition and make pro be for both? Like the whole point of XP and just name it Windows XP? No Pro, Home, Soccer Mom, Power User etc versions! (Excluding the advanced webserver versions) Price it somewhere inbetween what home and pro would cost and all confusion solved, lol! This is how it should be:
Xp Home = Cancelled because its like soooooo pointless when Pro is almost the same exact thing and the point of XP, its big hype is that its suppose to finaly merge the business OS with the home user. (Have I said this enough yet? lol) Or possibly just release it on OEM, soccer mom little baby systems?
XP Pro = Just named Windows XP, for business, and for the home user just like the main hype-up of XP! And just price it inbetween what Pro and Home would be. Why make two whole versions when they're so close to being the same exact thing? D'OH!
Ok, and on to number three finally (are we having fun yet?):
Quote:I really don't see why people have such an issue with having to actually go out and buy a copy of an OS for every machine they own.
Um, please be serious here, lol. They're having enough of a "issue" with all the w4r3z out there getting people to buy one copy, for one machine let alone paying an upwards of $269.99 + Tax a crack for two or more personally owned and run machines! ROTFLMFAO!! You cant realy expect someone to pay an upwards of $269.99 + Tax a crack if they personally own two-four machines that's only used by that one person, personally! Doesn't matter, this whole discusion is pointless. Most of you guys must jerkoff to windows splash screens instead of pictures of pretty females, lol! Becuase by the sounds of some of yaz, you sound like you would let Gates ram ya up the butte in a heartbeat (Or do you just work for M$? Be honest, I am )
They overprice and be lame = people gonna get it for free They can have it any way they want it! I will win either way
Oh and BTW you M$ zealots, lets not forget so soon how M$ equaly rips us off! Windows Millennium anyone?
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Xp Home = Cancelled because its like soooooo pointless when Pro is almost the same exact thing and the point of XP, its big hype is that its suppose to finaly merge the business OS with the home user. (Have I said this enough yet? lol) Or possibly just release it on OEM, soccer mom little baby systems?
XP Pro = Just named Windows XP, for business, and for the home user just like the main hype-up of XP! And just price it inbetween what Pro and Home would be. Why make two whole versions when they're so close to being the same exact thing? D'OH!
Ok, and on to number three finally (are we having fun yet?):
Quote:I really don't see why people have such an issue with having to actually go out and buy a copy of an OS for every machine they own.
Um, please be serious here, lol. They're having enough of a "issue" with all the w4r3z out there getting people to buy one copy, for one machine let alone paying an upwards of $269.99 + Tax a crack for two or more personally owned and run machines! ROTFLMFAO!! You cant realy expect someone to pay an upwards of $269.99 + Tax a crack if they personally own two-four machines that's only used by that one person, personally! Doesn't matter, this whole discusion is pointless. Most of you guys must jerkoff to windows splash screens instead of pictures of pretty females, lol! Becuase by the sounds of some of yaz, you sound like you would let Gates ram ya up the butte in a heartbeat (Or do you just work for M$? Be honest, I am )
They overprice and be lame = people gonna get it for free They can have it any way they want it! I will win either way
Oh and BTW you M$ zealots, lets not forget so soon how M$ equaly rips us off! Windows Millennium anyone?
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Well isn't it nice to see that the kids haven't had to go back to school yet.
"Most of you guys must jerkoff to windows splash screens instead of pictures of pretty females, lol"
...and the point of this little childish outburst was what exactly?
"Becuase by the sounds of some of yaz, you sound like you would let Gates ram ya up the butte in a heartbeat (Or do you just work for M$? Be honest, I am )"
OK, once again picking around the comments that make you sound like a 5 year old.
No, I don't work for Microsoft although I do work in the industry - hay kid, working is where you have to go out and earn some money.
I work in the kind of position that means I need to evaluate different systems before rolling them out to users.
If I thought there was a valid alternative to Microsoft products for half of the roll-outs I do I would look into them, as there aren't any I don't.
Do I love Microsoft products?
Well, Windows 95 certainly releaved a lot of my technical support calls when it was first released.
Windows 2000 has totally changed my work and home environment - I simply don't have people telling me their system has crashed, so once again yes I love Windows 2000.
XP is shaping up to be a good release, not one I'll roll out at work because I feel it doesn't offer much extra functionality to our Win2k network.
I may roll out a couple of WinXP servers and integrate them into our Win2k domains.
So yes, once again I love that Microsoft product too.
"They overprice and be lame = people gonna get it for free They can have it any way they want it! I will win either way"
Microsoft are once again about to release an OS that offers perfect compatibility and reliability.
They will also be pricing it at a very fair price, I really can't see a problem with £100.
Now if you feel Microsoft are being 'lame' because they are charging for their products that's your opinion I guess.
You win either way - well great going kid, just remember to turn off your PC before you go to school, don't go wasting that electricity.
"Oh and BTW you M$ zealots, lets not forget so soon how M$ equaly rips us off! Windows Millennium anyone?"
I evaluated Windows ME as soon as it was available in Release Candidate form.
I felt that the OS didn't offer and features that Win98 didn't already give me.
If certainly wasn't a valid alternative for Win2k here at work.
For these reasons I felt upgrading the Win98 machines to WinME wasn't valid.
So no, Microsoft didn't rip us off, we evaluated, we looked, we decided not to purchase, we paid £0, so no, we came out of that quite well.
As for first time buyers, getting WinME pre-installed on their systems wasn't such a bad thing, saves them downloading all the patches for Win98.
I hope you enjoy and continue to rip OS's.
Companies like Microsoft spend millions in development of new technologies with the sole intention of allowing many people to get the final product for nothing.
I shall not rise to your bait any more, you've said your piece, although it reads like a 5 year old wrote it.
Continue to bash Microsoft, it's obviously what you do and like doing best.
Maybe once you start to work in the industry you'll wake up and realise that Microsoft products don't take up the vast % of the market place for no reason.
"Most of you guys must jerkoff to windows splash screens instead of pictures of pretty females, lol"
...and the point of this little childish outburst was what exactly?
"Becuase by the sounds of some of yaz, you sound like you would let Gates ram ya up the butte in a heartbeat (Or do you just work for M$? Be honest, I am )"
OK, once again picking around the comments that make you sound like a 5 year old.
No, I don't work for Microsoft although I do work in the industry - hay kid, working is where you have to go out and earn some money.
I work in the kind of position that means I need to evaluate different systems before rolling them out to users.
If I thought there was a valid alternative to Microsoft products for half of the roll-outs I do I would look into them, as there aren't any I don't.
Do I love Microsoft products?
Well, Windows 95 certainly releaved a lot of my technical support calls when it was first released.
Windows 2000 has totally changed my work and home environment - I simply don't have people telling me their system has crashed, so once again yes I love Windows 2000.
XP is shaping up to be a good release, not one I'll roll out at work because I feel it doesn't offer much extra functionality to our Win2k network.
I may roll out a couple of WinXP servers and integrate them into our Win2k domains.
So yes, once again I love that Microsoft product too.
"They overprice and be lame = people gonna get it for free They can have it any way they want it! I will win either way"
Microsoft are once again about to release an OS that offers perfect compatibility and reliability.
They will also be pricing it at a very fair price, I really can't see a problem with £100.
Now if you feel Microsoft are being 'lame' because they are charging for their products that's your opinion I guess.
You win either way - well great going kid, just remember to turn off your PC before you go to school, don't go wasting that electricity.
"Oh and BTW you M$ zealots, lets not forget so soon how M$ equaly rips us off! Windows Millennium anyone?"
I evaluated Windows ME as soon as it was available in Release Candidate form.
I felt that the OS didn't offer and features that Win98 didn't already give me.
If certainly wasn't a valid alternative for Win2k here at work.
For these reasons I felt upgrading the Win98 machines to WinME wasn't valid.
So no, Microsoft didn't rip us off, we evaluated, we looked, we decided not to purchase, we paid £0, so no, we came out of that quite well.
As for first time buyers, getting WinME pre-installed on their systems wasn't such a bad thing, saves them downloading all the patches for Win98.
I hope you enjoy and continue to rip OS's.
Companies like Microsoft spend millions in development of new technologies with the sole intention of allowing many people to get the final product for nothing.
I shall not rise to your bait any more, you've said your piece, although it reads like a 5 year old wrote it.
Continue to bash Microsoft, it's obviously what you do and like doing best.
Maybe once you start to work in the industry you'll wake up and realise that Microsoft products don't take up the vast % of the market place for no reason.
Quote:and what if i decide that i want to run dual cpu's for sh1ts and giggles? does that mean i should go out and buy Pro after i've bought Personal?
I don't think so. As for now, i could settle for the home edition since i'm only running a single cpu. A lot people have come to accept Win2k Pro not as a business OS but a home one as well, xp pro doesn't HAVE to be for business and the Home edition doesn't HAVE to be for Home use. Now server and advanced server are a different story, you wouldn't use XP AdvSvr for playing CS or Q3 would you? No, you wouldn't. You've always had a positive attitude toward things and have never been one to flame, but you shouldn't just treat people as if they were idiots unless they asked a completely "off-the-wall" stupid question. Telling someone to "grow up" isn't very nice and after reading that comment, my only words to you are "Practice what you preach"
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Eddie,
You are taking my post entirely out of context. Compare my post to the first one in this thread. I was referring to the basic fact that ALL MS home os's have been cheaper than the work editions. I was NOT comparing features. I think his post and your post are the ones that have problems. Mine does not. (Except of course for what I just explained. )
Hopefully I do not have to point out what is wrong with his and YOUR posts. It should already be pretty obvious.
I don't think so. As for now, i could settle for the home edition since i'm only running a single cpu. A lot people have come to accept Win2k Pro not as a business OS but a home one as well, xp pro doesn't HAVE to be for business and the Home edition doesn't HAVE to be for Home use. Now server and advanced server are a different story, you wouldn't use XP AdvSvr for playing CS or Q3 would you? No, you wouldn't. You've always had a positive attitude toward things and have never been one to flame, but you shouldn't just treat people as if they were idiots unless they asked a completely "off-the-wall" stupid question. Telling someone to "grow up" isn't very nice and after reading that comment, my only words to you are "Practice what you preach"
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Eddie,
You are taking my post entirely out of context. Compare my post to the first one in this thread. I was referring to the basic fact that ALL MS home os's have been cheaper than the work editions. I was NOT comparing features. I think his post and your post are the ones that have problems. Mine does not. (Except of course for what I just explained. )
Hopefully I do not have to point out what is wrong with his and YOUR posts. It should already be pretty obvious.
Quote:I hope you enjoy and continue to rip OS's.
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
Sorry, I have yet to rip them off, LOL!!! I'm a "Kid" ROTFL!!! Hey bud... I "OWN" my own business:D Do I have to prove that also? Dont try me, i'll always win:D I wont go out of my way to sound like a fag who gets it up the ass, without "lube" from bill gates, but i'll always own you! You may scream, there's no shame:D
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
Sorry, I have yet to rip them off, LOL!!! I'm a "Kid" ROTFL!!! Hey bud... I "OWN" my own business:D Do I have to prove that also? Dont try me, i'll always win:D I wont go out of my way to sound like a fag who gets it up the ass, without "lube" from bill gates, but i'll always own you! You may scream, there's no shame:D
BoB hehe.
No no no no! I'm still looking for the rest of my OS's! (Do I have to post any of my linux ones? Just bought Mandrake with like 6 CD's full of goods about two weeks ago from EB....)
Fark! I'll hopefully dig out the rest by tonight! (heh, i'm suprised I found the NT CD and Book, lol)
EDIT: I'm gonna chill with the personal attacks
Peace, and have fun with XP
Fark! I'll hopefully dig out the rest by tonight! (heh, i'm suprised I found the NT CD and Book, lol)
EDIT: I'm gonna chill with the personal attacks
Peace, and have fun with XP
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Why not just can lame home edition and make pro be for both? Like the whole point of XP and just name it Windows XP? No Pro, Home, Soccer Mom, Power User etc versions! (Excluding the advanced webserver versions) Price it somewhere inbetween what home and pro would cost and all confusion solved, lol!
Why should the average home user have to pay more for features that he/she wont use? Why should the corporate version be bundled with add-ons and programs that only home users might have a need for (movie maker, and whatever else they throw on). In addition, I don't know if the terminal services/remote desktop features would even make it to the home version, but in your scenario this would be a certainty. I don't believe that would be such a brilliant idea, do you?
Why not just can lame home edition and make pro be for both? Like the whole point of XP and just name it Windows XP? No Pro, Home, Soccer Mom, Power User etc versions! (Excluding the advanced webserver versions) Price it somewhere inbetween what home and pro would cost and all confusion solved, lol!
Why should the average home user have to pay more for features that he/she wont use? Why should the corporate version be bundled with add-ons and programs that only home users might have a need for (movie maker, and whatever else they throw on). In addition, I don't know if the terminal services/remote desktop features would even make it to the home version, but in your scenario this would be a certainty. I don't believe that would be such a brilliant idea, do you?
I'm not officialy allowed to agree with yaz until I get atleast over 500 posts in:p
Quote:Why should the corporate version be bundled with add-ons and programs that only home users might have a need for (movie maker, and whatever else they throw on)
Um... I run XP "Pro" right now and Movie maker and whatever they throw in there, is in there!
Quote:Why should the average home user have to pay more for features that he/she wont use?
Because!
Quote:In addition, I don't know if the terminal services/remote desktop features would even make it to the home version, but in your scenario this would be a certainty. I don't believe that would be such a brilliant idea, do you?
I dunno.... We'll talk it over to Gates as he rams us up the butte!?
Quote:Why should the corporate version be bundled with add-ons and programs that only home users might have a need for (movie maker, and whatever else they throw on)
Um... I run XP "Pro" right now and Movie maker and whatever they throw in there, is in there!
Quote:Why should the average home user have to pay more for features that he/she wont use?
Because!
Quote:In addition, I don't know if the terminal services/remote desktop features would even make it to the home version, but in your scenario this would be a certainty. I don't believe that would be such a brilliant idea, do you?
I dunno.... We'll talk it over to Gates as he rams us up the butte!?
Well, XP Pro at the moment is in Beta trim, so I don't know what it will have in retail release. However, I don't see a real reason to combine both versions of the OS into one as there are different sets of needs to be met still. And as far as your homoerotic fascination with Bill Gates goes, you are being such a "hard a$$" that I am sure you would be a turn off for him.
I think this is a pretty touchy subject, with no right or wrong answer.
Some may say to integrate more options intoa home OS would be more expensive, which is true. Some ppl will never, ever think of taking advantage of new utils and appz in the "integrated" home OS. Which is also true.
But...
There is also the side that may say that its up to M$ to make a cheap version for home with all the services as the work os's. This can be true...but i think that to make money, to distribute your product evenly and to best suit the needs and wants for each seperate os, that the best way to do this is seperate them, and charge more money for the more integrated program.
A quick thought...
Some people buy trucks, some 4x4s,ome not, some diesel, some not. Basiclly...there is a need and a want for everything. You pay for what you get.
Some may say to integrate more options intoa home OS would be more expensive, which is true. Some ppl will never, ever think of taking advantage of new utils and appz in the "integrated" home OS. Which is also true.
But...
There is also the side that may say that its up to M$ to make a cheap version for home with all the services as the work os's. This can be true...but i think that to make money, to distribute your product evenly and to best suit the needs and wants for each seperate os, that the best way to do this is seperate them, and charge more money for the more integrated program.
A quick thought...
Some people buy trucks, some 4x4s,ome not, some diesel, some not. Basiclly...there is a need and a want for everything. You pay for what you get.
Well I think I'll leave this thread.
As usual it has turned into:
A. Here is a good argument
B. Nah, you're a fag!!
A. OK, let me put things in simple terms
B. Nah, bend over and brace yourself!!
"I'm a "Kid" ROTFL!!! Hey bud... I "OWN" my own business Do I have to prove that also? Dont try me, i'll always win I wont go out of my way to sound like a fag who gets it up the ***, without "lube" from bill gates, but i'll always own you! You may scream, there's no shame"
All I can say to this is I'm assuming the business you 'own' or is it 'ownzz' isn't in the computer industry.
No CEO I know of would take that kind of outlook at currently available products.
If the best argument you can come up with is 'You're a fag' then yes I do doubt your company owning status.
You're no better than the LINUX zealots who instead of singing the praises of their own product 'slag-off' the competition.
It's the usual tactic of somebody who doesn't have an argument, attack the competitor instead.
You go on living in you're dream world, where all computer products should be free.
To stop you from screaming, stamping, balling and saying 'somebody stole my lollipop' I wont reply again.
I'll let you get the last word in.
Oh, just to make you laugh 'boobs & fart' - I'm assuming that's the level of you're humour.
As usual it has turned into:
A. Here is a good argument
B. Nah, you're a fag!!
A. OK, let me put things in simple terms
B. Nah, bend over and brace yourself!!
"I'm a "Kid" ROTFL!!! Hey bud... I "OWN" my own business Do I have to prove that also? Dont try me, i'll always win I wont go out of my way to sound like a fag who gets it up the ***, without "lube" from bill gates, but i'll always own you! You may scream, there's no shame"
All I can say to this is I'm assuming the business you 'own' or is it 'ownzz' isn't in the computer industry.
No CEO I know of would take that kind of outlook at currently available products.
If the best argument you can come up with is 'You're a fag' then yes I do doubt your company owning status.
You're no better than the LINUX zealots who instead of singing the praises of their own product 'slag-off' the competition.
It's the usual tactic of somebody who doesn't have an argument, attack the competitor instead.
You go on living in you're dream world, where all computer products should be free.
To stop you from screaming, stamping, balling and saying 'somebody stole my lollipop' I wont reply again.
I'll let you get the last word in.
Oh, just to make you laugh 'boobs & fart' - I'm assuming that's the level of you're humour.
Yeah, some of those hard-core Linux users are really *******s.
"Oh, my OS doesnt crash...games run faster...blah,blah,blah..."
Dont get me wrong, I like Linux a whole lot, but its a pain in the neck to set up hardware. Solutions usually involve recompiling the kernel, which Ive been far too lazy to even learn, but that requires some console crap which Im not too fond of.
They compare to 98 and not 2000. Im sorry, but Win2k is better than Linux in its current state, and even with the 2.4 kernel, it still has miles to go before its really a viable alternative to Windows.
Games may run faster, but look how many games there are for Linux and compare that to Windows. And they run well enough for me on Windows, thank you very much.
I think Linux will be in a much better position when it comes preinstalled on home users pc like Windows. At that point, the superior OS factor can be debated, providing Gates hasnt achieved world domination.
Also, I wonder why Linux doesnt come preinstalled on home pc's. Maybe because Windows is easier to use!? *shock*
Im not saying Linux is a bad OS, but in comparison with Windows 2000, its gonna be much harder than if 98 was still the hot item, since Win2k solves problems in the crashing area of 98.
End rant.
"Oh, my OS doesnt crash...games run faster...blah,blah,blah..."
Dont get me wrong, I like Linux a whole lot, but its a pain in the neck to set up hardware. Solutions usually involve recompiling the kernel, which Ive been far too lazy to even learn, but that requires some console crap which Im not too fond of.
They compare to 98 and not 2000. Im sorry, but Win2k is better than Linux in its current state, and even with the 2.4 kernel, it still has miles to go before its really a viable alternative to Windows.
Games may run faster, but look how many games there are for Linux and compare that to Windows. And they run well enough for me on Windows, thank you very much.
I think Linux will be in a much better position when it comes preinstalled on home users pc like Windows. At that point, the superior OS factor can be debated, providing Gates hasnt achieved world domination.
Also, I wonder why Linux doesnt come preinstalled on home pc's. Maybe because Windows is easier to use!? *shock*
Im not saying Linux is a bad OS, but in comparison with Windows 2000, its gonna be much harder than if 98 was still the hot item, since Win2k solves problems in the crashing area of 98.
End rant.
*Sigh* I can see when I bring home, home edititon already.*almost identical*. So if its that close to being that same, then why waste the time?
Oh and about: "Blah blah blah..... Business users dont need Movie make or whatever else they put in there, blah blah blah blah blah" Thats why I said a few months ago that all that fud should be user selectable on the intitial install or un-installable at a later time and not *forced up the butte* on the user.
Oh and BladeRunner, don't let the flaming get to ya! After its all said and done, i'll still let you, or any other fellow M$ zealots get me in the butte! We can take all are windows cd's, oil them up and rub them over each others bodies.... oh yea....mub that windows cd all over me ya stud... oh... oh... now rub the win2k cd on me... ooooooohhhh baby...... ive never had win2k yet.... oooooohhhhhhhhhhhh:D
HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!!!
Oh and about: "Blah blah blah..... Business users dont need Movie make or whatever else they put in there, blah blah blah blah blah" Thats why I said a few months ago that all that fud should be user selectable on the intitial install or un-installable at a later time and not *forced up the butte* on the user.
Oh and BladeRunner, don't let the flaming get to ya! After its all said and done, i'll still let you, or any other fellow M$ zealots get me in the butte! We can take all are windows cd's, oil them up and rub them over each others bodies.... oh yea....mub that windows cd all over me ya stud... oh... oh... now rub the win2k cd on me... ooooooohhhh baby...... ive never had win2k yet.... oooooohhhhhhhhhhhh:D
HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!!!
Well, I agree both with Questionaire and BladeRunner.
It is not so easy to determinate what is a home user and what is a pro user. What if I work at home, and play games? What If I want to use my system for Image Retouching, and after that, code my programs (with a legal copy of VIsual C++ 5).?
Bladerunner is also right when he says that:
It is not so easy to determinate what is a home user and what is a pro user. What if I work at home, and play games? What If I want to use my system for Image Retouching, and after that, code my programs (with a legal copy of VIsual C++ 5).?
Bladerunner is also right when he says that:
You go on living in you're dream world, where all computer products should be free.
but products ARE overpriced indeed. Many people gotten used to *****, and now it will be hard to take them out of it with €200 Windows XP home Edition (Full, no VAT included).
With lower prices, people would be encouraged to buy a legal product. And with good promotional upgrades, there would be no need of "I want this, then I download it from ***** servers".
But not only single users comply about the prices. Big companies don't simple upgrade to a newer version just as it comes out. They have to evaluate, both the costs of hardware and license, and the learning curve.
PS:
1-I ocasionally use linux just to experiment with it. Although it's not really "soccer mum friendly" (I'd rather say "newbie friendly"), it has some features that Windows lacks, or MS hasn't thought. Some people like messing with their machines, and linux is a nice option for doing so.
2-I'd love to see a Pro+home Windows XP version merged. Maybe I'm a "professional at home" user 8)
3-didn't we have a long discussion about linux in "I don't mean to piss anyone off..." topic Bladerunner ?
