Radeon 8500, so far, so good...
Welp, it's probably been easy to tell I haven't been exactly pleased with ATI in the past. Their major achilles heel, drivers, seems to be remedied for the 8500's very latest, not-yet-offically-certified, drivers for XP run smooth so far.
Welp, it's probably been easy to tell I haven't been exactly pleased with ATI in the past. Their major achilles heel, drivers, seems to be remedied for the 8500's very latest, not-yet-offically-certified, drivers for XP run smooth so far. I think that you guys will be very pleased with this card now that ATI has whipped the driver development team to at least put out drivers that don't suck A$$ everytime. The drivers dated Nov. 13 are good so far. 5800 3dmark 2001 default settings with an 800MHz CPU. w00t!
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I will upgrade, eventually when I can get a pair of 1GHz CPU's, but this is in 32-bit, and the GF2Ti I had in their before can't touch the 8500 in 32-bit, and just barely in 16-bit.
I have hated ATI for sure in the past, but the 8500 seems to be pretty good this time around. ATI has done a 180 on the driver development here, and they've just got some minor details to work out.
I don't know what happenened up in Canada, but ATI has gotten their act together in the past month and now can do what I thought was impossible: Make good drivers.
If they continue like this, they can totally dominate the GF3Ti500, which the card can, IMO, but it's just a matter of, you guessed it, DRIVERS!
I have been noticing Nvidia's drivers as a bit of a pain in the *** lately, especially under XP. Another thing I really don't like is the drivers that are only in an executable format, not zipped up. Half the time (actually, most of it) the drivers fail to install--which truly sucks.
I have hated ATI for sure in the past, but the 8500 seems to be pretty good this time around. ATI has done a 180 on the driver development here, and they've just got some minor details to work out.
I don't know what happenened up in Canada, but ATI has gotten their act together in the past month and now can do what I thought was impossible: Make good drivers.
If they continue like this, they can totally dominate the GF3Ti500, which the card can, IMO, but it's just a matter of, you guessed it, DRIVERS!
I have been noticing Nvidia's drivers as a bit of a pain in the *** lately, especially under XP. Another thing I really don't like is the drivers that are only in an executable format, not zipped up. Half the time (actually, most of it) the drivers fail to install--which truly sucks.
Well with my system I hit 8151, but I think it can do better. ATi:D has taken care of me and I am happy. My biggest kudos to ATI would be Visual Quality.
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From Tom's Hardware ........
Conclusion
The Radeon's new drivers are a step forward in every respect. The performance has improved, and the very controversial 'Quake3 optimization' has been removed from the driver. A very impressive aspect is the Radeon's performance when using anisotropic filtering. The R8500 simply leaves the competition by Nvidia in the dust.
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Conclusion
The Radeon's new drivers are a step forward in every respect. The performance has improved, and the very controversial 'Quake3 optimization' has been removed from the driver. A very impressive aspect is the Radeon's performance when using anisotropic filtering. The R8500 simply leaves the competition by Nvidia in the dust.
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Tom's not GOD, but he is a source, & one I use... I generally like his reviews.
(I bet this makes Brian feel a bit better about his purchase, I know it would me knowing that benchmark driver optimization mudslinging ATI's competition or testers did is not affecting a thing, the board is still doing well in tests WITHOUT them!)
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Tom is also desperate for some competition against nVidia, and has always been a fan of the DVD and general MPEG playback ability of ATI's products. They might have one set that works now, but let's see if they can keep up[censored] their drivers over the next 6 months, and see what they do when they update the product and/or release a new one.
Tom's not GOD, but he is a source, & one I use... I generally like his reviews.
(I bet this makes Brian feel a bit better about his purchase, I know it would me knowing that benchmark driver optimization mudslinging ATI's competition or testers did is not affecting a thing, the board is still doing well in tests WITHOUT them!)
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Tom is also desperate for some competition against nVidia, and has always been a fan of the DVD and general MPEG playback ability of ATI's products. They might have one set that works now, but let's see if they can keep up[censored] their drivers over the next 6 months, and see what they do when they update the product and/or release a new one.