random shutdowns!
Hi there. Ok I have a kinda unusual and very annoying problem here. . . . with the PC. . . I have my system dual booted with Win98SE and that works fine. But, at any time when I'm on the desktop in Win2000, the system can just turn itself off and back on.
Hi there.
Ok I have a kinda unusual and very annoying problem here....with the PC...
I have my system dual booted with Win98SE and that works fine.
But, at any time when I'm on the desktop in Win2000, the system can just turn itself off and back on.
This has happened with no apparrent pattern.
I can be listening to Winamp, browsing and then it just reboots...or I opened up he Derag program and went to analyse a drive, and it rebooted.
The odd thing is that I can play UT online for ages and it is all fine.
I reseated the drive cables, the RAM, the Processor and the TNT2 card, but it still happens.
The system has a PIII and a Jetway MoBo (VIA chipset).
Any ideas?
I tend to believe the problems are Win2000 related, as Win98 doesn' reboot the system like this.
Any ideas are appreciated here.
Thanks.
Ok I have a kinda unusual and very annoying problem here....with the PC...
I have my system dual booted with Win98SE and that works fine.
But, at any time when I'm on the desktop in Win2000, the system can just turn itself off and back on.
This has happened with no apparrent pattern.
I can be listening to Winamp, browsing and then it just reboots...or I opened up he Derag program and went to analyse a drive, and it rebooted.
The odd thing is that I can play UT online for ages and it is all fine.
I reseated the drive cables, the RAM, the Processor and the TNT2 card, but it still happens.
The system has a PIII and a Jetway MoBo (VIA chipset).
Any ideas?
I tend to believe the problems are Win2000 related, as Win98 doesn' reboot the system like this.
Any ideas are appreciated here.
Thanks.
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Believe it or not, same thing happened to me as well for few days. It only happened with Internet Explorer...
I was trying to open a link, it wouldn't do it first time, second or third time i tried, it simply rebooted!! I installed Netscape, which later I deleted, cos it's a RAM hog (literaly), then updated to M$ IE 5.1, and finally downgraded to Win98...
I was trying to open a link, it wouldn't do it first time, second or third time i tried, it simply rebooted!! I installed Netscape, which later I deleted, cos it's a RAM hog (literaly), then updated to M$ IE 5.1, and finally downgraded to Win98...
So you're basicaly advising me to revert to 98!
I's a good job I have a Dual Boot setup so!
I don't want to give up on 2000 just yet tho...when it works it works well...unfortunately I spend too much time looking at the bootup screens for my own good!
Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this?
Cheers all.
I's a good job I have a Dual Boot setup so!
I don't want to give up on 2000 just yet tho...when it works it works well...unfortunately I spend too much time looking at the bootup screens for my own good!
Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this?
Cheers all.
if you have a cd burner reinstall the aspi drivers from adaptec that was my problem. nti cd maker does some weird crap to them when you try to install it
Hey Flow.
I'm thinking that it is somehow related to the TNT2 drivers.
What drivers have you got installed for your TNT2 card?
I have the Creative 3.76 drivers installed.
Actually, just yesterday I couldn't even get into 2000 at all - it was rebooting as soon as I hit the desktop!
Today I disabled ACPI in the BIOS and I am now in Win2000, but that might not be related as, ya know, this whole rebooting thing seems to be random.
I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling my video drivers and see if that helps.
Cya.
I'm thinking that it is somehow related to the TNT2 drivers.
What drivers have you got installed for your TNT2 card?
I have the Creative 3.76 drivers installed.
Actually, just yesterday I couldn't even get into 2000 at all - it was rebooting as soon as I hit the desktop!
Today I disabled ACPI in the BIOS and I am now in Win2000, but that might not be related as, ya know, this whole rebooting thing seems to be random.
I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling my video drivers and see if that helps.
Cya.
Hi FOZZ
I experienced a similar problem before..
My Win2k box just reboot itself without a blue screen when I burn a CD, scan a photo thru USB scanner and browse the net at the same time.
I suspected that the problem was due to ability of Power Supply that couldn't supply enough voltage to the system. Then, I move my HD from UDMA33 to HighPoint UDMA66(I guess my HD and IDE CDR draw the power from same source when both plug in UDMA33) and Up the CPU core voltage to 1.95v.
The problem is solved before I buy an more powerful power supply.
My system:
Win2000 Professional 2195
ABIT BP6
Dual Celery 400 x 2 @504 vCore 1.95
256M Buffulo PC100 CL=2 RAM
ASUS V3400 TNT using lastest W2K driver
Voodoo2
SB Live value
Barebone 1394 adaptor
Segate 27G UDMA66
Panasonic CDR
I experienced a similar problem before..
My Win2k box just reboot itself without a blue screen when I burn a CD, scan a photo thru USB scanner and browse the net at the same time.
I suspected that the problem was due to ability of Power Supply that couldn't supply enough voltage to the system. Then, I move my HD from UDMA33 to HighPoint UDMA66(I guess my HD and IDE CDR draw the power from same source when both plug in UDMA33) and Up the CPU core voltage to 1.95v.
The problem is solved before I buy an more powerful power supply.
My system:
Win2000 Professional 2195
ABIT BP6
Dual Celery 400 x 2 @504 vCore 1.95
256M Buffulo PC100 CL=2 RAM
ASUS V3400 TNT using lastest W2K driver
Voodoo2
SB Live value
Barebone 1394 adaptor
Segate 27G UDMA66
Panasonic CDR
2 Fozz:
I haben't a TNT2 Card, I have a TNT Elsa Erazor2 (NOT TNT2)Card. I think the drivers a based on 3.76 Detonator drivers from Nvidia.
Does the reinstall help?
2 PATPATNG:
Thanks for your help but the power supply can't be the problem because Win98 runs without problems or takes it more power?
;-)
And i've a strong power supply and only one celi.
Cya
FloW
I'll try new video drivers too......
I haben't a TNT2 Card, I have a TNT Elsa Erazor2 (NOT TNT2)Card. I think the drivers a based on 3.76 Detonator drivers from Nvidia.
Does the reinstall help?
2 PATPATNG:
Thanks for your help but the power supply can't be the problem because Win98 runs without problems or takes it more power?
;-)
And i've a strong power supply and only one celi.
Cya
FloW
I'll try new video drivers too......
Hi there guys.
Ok, well, I upgraded to the Detonator 3.78 drivers and I also installed the updated ASPI drivers from the Adaptec website.
Up[censored] the video drivers didn't seem to help and I haven't tested the system a lot since up[censored] the ASPI drivers, but I've been logged on here for an hour messing around and it hasn't reboot yet!
Wahey!
I'll update this pot wth more news as I get it.
May be a while as I'll be drinkin' now till Paddy's day on Friday!
Go on Istabrac!
Ok, well, I upgraded to the Detonator 3.78 drivers and I also installed the updated ASPI drivers from the Adaptec website.
Up[censored] the video drivers didn't seem to help and I haven't tested the system a lot since up[censored] the ASPI drivers, but I've been logged on here for an hour messing around and it hasn't reboot yet!
Wahey!
I'll update this pot wth more news as I get it.
May be a while as I'll be drinkin' now till Paddy's day on Friday!
Go on Istabrac!
Fozz,
I've had similar problems especially due to Detonator reference drivers 3.78 and lower, seems to be after I'ved accessed an OpenGl app, ( always happens with OpenGl based screensavers ). If your card is an ASUS, try the new Beta1 3.79 it fixes the allocation bug with AGP.
Adaptec 4.01 causes faux BSOD with any cd dupe.
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PIII 450
128 MB RAM
Asus P299 Mb
Asus V3800M64 TNT2
Memorex CR-622 CDR
I've had similar problems especially due to Detonator reference drivers 3.78 and lower, seems to be after I'ved accessed an OpenGl app, ( always happens with OpenGl based screensavers ). If your card is an ASUS, try the new Beta1 3.79 it fixes the allocation bug with AGP.
Adaptec 4.01 causes faux BSOD with any cd dupe.
-------------
PIII 450
128 MB RAM
Asus P299 Mb
Asus V3800M64 TNT2
Memorex CR-622 CDR
fozz,
Try turning the auto reboot feature off in "Control Panel->System->Advanced->Startup and Recovery" (uncheck the option "automatically reboot"). The next time the error occurs you'll see a screen (aka BSOD) with some, hopefully, useful information. Post the STOP code in the forum if you need more help.
/fdahl
Try turning the auto reboot feature off in "Control Panel->System->Advanced->Startup and Recovery" (uncheck the option "automatically reboot"). The next time the error occurs you'll see a screen (aka BSOD) with some, hopefully, useful information. Post the STOP code in the forum if you need more help.
/fdahl
fdahl:
Ok, good idea!
I disabled the auto reboot as you suggested and now when it crashes I'm getting BSOD's, as expected.
I've gotten three so far:
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
MODE_EXCEPION_NOT_HANDLED
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Well, not sure what is causing these but I'm open to any ideas.
Thanks a lot guys, oh, and happy St. Patricks Day!
[This message has been edited by Fozz (edited 17 March 2000).]
Ok, good idea!
I disabled the auto reboot as you suggested and now when it crashes I'm getting BSOD's, as expected.
I've gotten three so far:
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
MODE_EXCEPION_NOT_HANDLED
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Well, not sure what is causing these but I'm open to any ideas.
Thanks a lot guys, oh, and happy St. Patricks Day!
[This message has been edited by Fozz (edited 17 March 2000).]
Alright guys. I have narrowed the problem down to just three possibilities.
1. I have this problem only when I hyperclocked my processor.
2. When I burn my CD (solved when I update my ASPI layer to the latest version)
3. When I get a lockup and manually end task on some program (particularly Quake3).
My solution:-
1. I don't hyperclock my processor but overclock to some stable speed instead. It is better to sacrify a few Mhz than to get an unstable system.
2. As said, get the latest ASPI for my CDR. Sometimes it reboot when I don't burn CDR at all. It restart when I click My computer.. Problem solved when update ASPI.
3. Can't do anything yet. I think it is my Nvidia Reference driver 3.78 which is not mature enough for my SMP system.
1. I have this problem only when I hyperclocked my processor.
2. When I burn my CD (solved when I update my ASPI layer to the latest version)
3. When I get a lockup and manually end task on some program (particularly Quake3).
My solution:-
1. I don't hyperclock my processor but overclock to some stable speed instead. It is better to sacrify a few Mhz than to get an unstable system.
2. As said, get the latest ASPI for my CDR. Sometimes it reboot when I don't burn CDR at all. It restart when I click My computer.. Problem solved when update ASPI.
3. Can't do anything yet. I think it is my Nvidia Reference driver 3.78 which is not mature enough for my SMP system.
My problem has existed in these places.
Just now playing quake 3
once in internet explorer
and just after playing some games.
some times when i restart the cmoputer just beeps and beeps and beeps. i think that the comptuers mobo detected that it was to hot and shut down and didnt work till it cooled a couple degrees.
when i start back up, it says that it is around 110f on the processor
could this be the problem? or should i jsut disable auto restart and see if it is bsod, copy that error, and ask people what it is?
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Amd k7 500 w/ 3dnow and mmx. :: 192 mb sd100 ram.
Biostar m7mka mobo. :: 32x toshieba cd rom. :: 2x write 4x read phillips cdr w/ adaptec scsi. :: Winfast nvidia geforce 256 ddr 32mb w/ tv out. :: Diamond monster mx 300 Sound. :: Standard Floppy. :: 5 speakers including a subwoofer. :: Us robotics external 56k modem x2 v.90. :: Intellimouse explorer. ::
Standard gateway keyboard. :: 17 inch gateway ev700 monitor. :: Epson stylus color 600 printer. :: Info scaner. :: D-link 10/100 mbit ethernet lan card. dfe-530tx+ w/ wol. :: Windows 2000 Professional.
Just now playing quake 3
once in internet explorer
and just after playing some games.
some times when i restart the cmoputer just beeps and beeps and beeps. i think that the comptuers mobo detected that it was to hot and shut down and didnt work till it cooled a couple degrees.
when i start back up, it says that it is around 110f on the processor
could this be the problem? or should i jsut disable auto restart and see if it is bsod, copy that error, and ask people what it is?
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Amd k7 500 w/ 3dnow and mmx. :: 192 mb sd100 ram.
Biostar m7mka mobo. :: 32x toshieba cd rom. :: 2x write 4x read phillips cdr w/ adaptec scsi. :: Winfast nvidia geforce 256 ddr 32mb w/ tv out. :: Diamond monster mx 300 Sound. :: Standard Floppy. :: 5 speakers including a subwoofer. :: Us robotics external 56k modem x2 v.90. :: Intellimouse explorer. ::
Standard gateway keyboard. :: 17 inch gateway ev700 monitor. :: Epson stylus color 600 printer. :: Info scaner. :: D-link 10/100 mbit ethernet lan card. dfe-530tx+ w/ wol. :: Windows 2000 Professional.
Hey i get the same ****ty bluescreen error.
the following shows up in event log.
it seems totally random...sometimes im not even doing anything!!!
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Save Dump
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 3/18/2000
Time: 10:16:56 PM
User: N/A
Computer: CR183050-A
Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001e (0xc0000005, 0xed238e43, 0x00000000, 0x000001ae). Microsoft Windows 2000 [v15.2195]. A dump was saved in: C:\WINNT\Minidump\Mini031800-03.dmp.
The microsoft knowledge base is not really helpful, this is the link to their "help" on the problem
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/8/57.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB&FR=0
I am running windows v.5 (2195)
i have winpoxy 3.0, and zone alarm and maxmem running in background.
anybody have any ideas what the hell this is?
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amd 750
asus k7m m/b
asus v6800 (8.1 drivers)
sb live value (livewire beta)
20 gig maxtor ata 66 7200 rpm
intel 10/100 ethernet
realtek 10base ethernet
56k aopen modem
48X sony.
300 W power supply.
the following shows up in event log.
it seems totally random...sometimes im not even doing anything!!!
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Save Dump
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 3/18/2000
Time: 10:16:56 PM
User: N/A
Computer: CR183050-A
Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001e (0xc0000005, 0xed238e43, 0x00000000, 0x000001ae). Microsoft Windows 2000 [v15.2195]. A dump was saved in: C:\WINNT\Minidump\Mini031800-03.dmp.
The microsoft knowledge base is not really helpful, this is the link to their "help" on the problem
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/8/57.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB&FR=0
I am running windows v.5 (2195)
i have winpoxy 3.0, and zone alarm and maxmem running in background.
anybody have any ideas what the hell this is?
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amd 750
asus k7m m/b
asus v6800 (8.1 drivers)
sb live value (livewire beta)
20 gig maxtor ata 66 7200 rpm
intel 10/100 ethernet
realtek 10base ethernet
56k aopen modem
48X sony.
300 W power supply.
Mello...I get the same errors in the Event Log.
I've disabled the Automatic Shutdown "feature" of Win2000 so that now I actually get to a BSOD and I can see what the error is.
I mainly get PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and I cannot find anything on this, or what may be causing it....but I can get it at any time, even when I'm not doing anything.
I also get a lot of other errors - you know, when it says that an "Error is being created" and IE5 will just close down.
Could it be related to the fact that I have the system Dual-Booted with 98 on the same partition?
I don't know but I may just dump 2000 and install it all again from scratch.
I gotta update my NVIDIA drivers to the 3.81 and install the EZ CD Creator update from Adaptec and see what effect they have.
I'll keep y'all posted.
G'luck.
I've disabled the Automatic Shutdown "feature" of Win2000 so that now I actually get to a BSOD and I can see what the error is.
I mainly get PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and I cannot find anything on this, or what may be causing it....but I can get it at any time, even when I'm not doing anything.
I also get a lot of other errors - you know, when it says that an "Error is being created" and IE5 will just close down.
Could it be related to the fact that I have the system Dual-Booted with 98 on the same partition?
I don't know but I may just dump 2000 and install it all again from scratch.
I gotta update my NVIDIA drivers to the 3.81 and install the EZ CD Creator update from Adaptec and see what effect they have.
I'll keep y'all posted.
G'luck.
hi too all!
i've found the same topic at an other board and they have the same problems, allways when they started internet explorer -> reboots. Someone posted that this problem is caused of a IE bitkey and micro$ has an update for this problem....
this update data is: tcpippix
but i have this only as data on my computer (a board member mailed me this file) and i don't know where to get it.....
:-(
now i'll test it and post my experiences....
cu
FloW
i've found the same topic at an other board and they have the same problems, allways when they started internet explorer -> reboots. Someone posted that this problem is caused of a IE bitkey and micro$ has an update for this problem....
this update data is: tcpippix
but i have this only as data on my computer (a board member mailed me this file) and i don't know where to get it.....
:-(
now i'll test it and post my experiences....
cu
FloW
mail it to seldzar and he can put it up on his site.
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