SHS - Can you please help me? WINTV PVR + 1394 Conflict
Hi. I was wondering you could please help me with a rather big problem I have been having with my setup. I was wondering if you had heard anything about people having problems using Windows XP with their firewire connection and wintv-pvr.
Hi. I was wondering you could please help me with a rather big problem I have been having with my setup.
I was wondering if you had heard anything about people having problems using Windows XP with their firewire connection and wintv-pvr.
First, I have tried many different driver combinations with plenty of norton ghost restores. After installing the wintv pvr drivers (WinTV VFW drivers 3.12.19300)+ (WinTV-PVR MPEG Drivers 1.5.19352)+ , I run into two problems.
First, when I go into wintv 2000, ( after searching for cable stations ntsc) the color is all messed up. It has mainly red and black and a few other light colors. I can still watch tv programs and change the channel, but it is covered with all the different color lines squiggling. It almost looks like I am getting a bad reception, but I just upgraded from Windows 2000 with the
picture looking great, so I doubt there is a cable problem.
The odd thing is that when I run a record, it still looks bad, but when I go to play it the video looks like normal tv without the color lines. Same thing with the PVR Pause function (obviously this looks ok, since it is playback and not live).
I have tried mpeg1 and 2 settings, different resolutions, and yuv2, 9, and 12, rgb 16 and 32, but no help... even adjusting the contrast will not help. I had this card working fine in windows 2000, so I know it has to be the drivers.
Now on to the bigger problem....
After installing the wintv drivers, I went into premiere 6.01, and I noticed that when I select a DV project, I get a microsoft error "send this message to MS..." I checked what the error was, and it said "dv-device.prm (this is a premiere plugin) has had an error."
So I tried reinstalling premiere, but no luck. Same error. I checked dejanews and the premiere forums at adobe.com, but no one has had dv-device.prm errors. Now... what does this have to do with the wintv pvr...
When I tried to fix the color problem in wintv 2000, before experimenting with a different pvr driver, I did a complete .inf and file uninstall.
I then imediatley went into premiere (even without a restart) and selected a dv project and it opened up fine. Now, I have tried formating my machine, and installing premiere 6 after wintv pvr, but I get the same problem... I then uninstall wintv, and imediatley dv project and controls work in Premiere.
So when trying this all again on a clean format, I ran the first driver for the wintv, and did a reboot. Checked premiere, and it was fine. Then I ran the prv45... update and premiere now crashes on that same dv-device.prm file
My guess is that the wintv pvr is blocking all other capture drivers in windows xp (what the dv-device.prm is trying to communicate with), cause when I went to windows movie maker, all I could choose was my wintv pvr card, and not my 1394 card (it was not listed). Even odder, when I am choosing my premiere project, if I just select a generic profile "Video for Windows" -instead of a DV project, I can get into the premiere timeline... and when I go to preferences to select a device, I see DV Device control 2.0, but premiere won't keep the setting or configure it like I could without the Wintv drivers installed.
So I think somehow the wintv pvr driver is blocking my firewire card. I have a Creative Audigy running with xp ohci 1394 drivers. Nothing at dejanews or creative's website mentions problems like this.
I have tried using some other beta drivers from your site, like the newest updates (WinTV-PVR MPEG Drivers 1.5.20007), but still the same problem. I have also tried the wintv pvr xp drivers from hauppages website (not the ftp) and no luck either (3.11.19205 & pvrpcidrv15_19300.exe).
SOOOO... thank you for reading all of that stuff, I am sorry for the length. Do you think you could provide me with a list of wintv pvr drivers which you think work the best? Do you have AIM or ICQ so I could talk to you in real time? Again, thank you for your help.
Specs: TBIRD 1200MHZ, 512 Ram, KT7A-RAID w/latest bios, default hpt370 winxp controller drivers, via 4in1 4.37a, Nvidia GF2 GTS w/ 21.83 whql drivers, WinXP Pro, IBM 40 gig 7200 rpm not raided, Audigy Platnum with 1394 OHCI Winxp driver, Premiere 6.01
I was wondering if you had heard anything about people having problems using Windows XP with their firewire connection and wintv-pvr.
First, I have tried many different driver combinations with plenty of norton ghost restores. After installing the wintv pvr drivers (WinTV VFW drivers 3.12.19300)+ (WinTV-PVR MPEG Drivers 1.5.19352)+ , I run into two problems.
First, when I go into wintv 2000, ( after searching for cable stations ntsc) the color is all messed up. It has mainly red and black and a few other light colors. I can still watch tv programs and change the channel, but it is covered with all the different color lines squiggling. It almost looks like I am getting a bad reception, but I just upgraded from Windows 2000 with the
picture looking great, so I doubt there is a cable problem.
The odd thing is that when I run a record, it still looks bad, but when I go to play it the video looks like normal tv without the color lines. Same thing with the PVR Pause function (obviously this looks ok, since it is playback and not live).
I have tried mpeg1 and 2 settings, different resolutions, and yuv2, 9, and 12, rgb 16 and 32, but no help... even adjusting the contrast will not help. I had this card working fine in windows 2000, so I know it has to be the drivers.
Now on to the bigger problem....
After installing the wintv drivers, I went into premiere 6.01, and I noticed that when I select a DV project, I get a microsoft error "send this message to MS..." I checked what the error was, and it said "dv-device.prm (this is a premiere plugin) has had an error."
So I tried reinstalling premiere, but no luck. Same error. I checked dejanews and the premiere forums at adobe.com, but no one has had dv-device.prm errors. Now... what does this have to do with the wintv pvr...
When I tried to fix the color problem in wintv 2000, before experimenting with a different pvr driver, I did a complete .inf and file uninstall.
I then imediatley went into premiere (even without a restart) and selected a dv project and it opened up fine. Now, I have tried formating my machine, and installing premiere 6 after wintv pvr, but I get the same problem... I then uninstall wintv, and imediatley dv project and controls work in Premiere.
So when trying this all again on a clean format, I ran the first driver for the wintv, and did a reboot. Checked premiere, and it was fine. Then I ran the prv45... update and premiere now crashes on that same dv-device.prm file
My guess is that the wintv pvr is blocking all other capture drivers in windows xp (what the dv-device.prm is trying to communicate with), cause when I went to windows movie maker, all I could choose was my wintv pvr card, and not my 1394 card (it was not listed). Even odder, when I am choosing my premiere project, if I just select a generic profile "Video for Windows" -instead of a DV project, I can get into the premiere timeline... and when I go to preferences to select a device, I see DV Device control 2.0, but premiere won't keep the setting or configure it like I could without the Wintv drivers installed.
So I think somehow the wintv pvr driver is blocking my firewire card. I have a Creative Audigy running with xp ohci 1394 drivers. Nothing at dejanews or creative's website mentions problems like this.
I have tried using some other beta drivers from your site, like the newest updates (WinTV-PVR MPEG Drivers 1.5.20007), but still the same problem. I have also tried the wintv pvr xp drivers from hauppages website (not the ftp) and no luck either (3.11.19205 & pvrpcidrv15_19300.exe).
SOOOO... thank you for reading all of that stuff, I am sorry for the length. Do you think you could provide me with a list of wintv pvr drivers which you think work the best? Do you have AIM or ICQ so I could talk to you in real time? Again, thank you for your help.
Specs: TBIRD 1200MHZ, 512 Ram, KT7A-RAID w/latest bios, default hpt370 winxp controller drivers, via 4in1 4.37a, Nvidia GF2 GTS w/ 21.83 whql drivers, WinXP Pro, IBM 40 gig 7200 rpm not raided, Audigy Platnum with 1394 OHCI Winxp driver, Premiere 6.01
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Are you run using ACPI? check see if all you device are on one IRQ run Start | Programs | Accessories| System Tools | System Information click on + sign on Hardware Resources then click on IRQs folder.
Should look something like this
IRQ Number Device
12 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200
14 Primary IDE Channel
15 Secondary IDE Channel
9 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
9 Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
9 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
10 Creative SB Audigy
11 Hauppauge Win/TV 878/9 VFW Video Driver
11 Hauppauge Streaming Data Capture Device
1 PC/AT PS/2 Keyboard (84-Key)
4 Communications Port (COM1)
3 Communications Port (COM2)
6 Standard floppy disk controller
8 System CMOS/real time clock
13 Numeric data processor
I belive your frist problem it directdraw did you install the latest video card drivers (23.11), One thing you can try go to Start | Programs | Hauppauge WinTV | Primary try change to a diff video mode.
Send me screenshot before you do anything.
As for your 2 problem I don't know what it could be.
Should look something like this
IRQ Number Device
12 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200
14 Primary IDE Channel
15 Secondary IDE Channel
9 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
9 Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
9 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
10 Creative SB Audigy
11 Hauppauge Win/TV 878/9 VFW Video Driver
11 Hauppauge Streaming Data Capture Device
1 PC/AT PS/2 Keyboard (84-Key)
4 Communications Port (COM1)
3 Communications Port (COM2)
6 Standard floppy disk controller
8 System CMOS/real time clock
13 Numeric data processor
I belive your frist problem it directdraw did you install the latest video card drivers (23.11), One thing you can try go to Start | Programs | Hauppauge WinTV | Primary try change to a diff video mode.
Send me screenshot before you do anything.
As for your 2 problem I don't know what it could be.
Thanks for the help. Yeah, I have acpi enabled, and my irqs are moved around as best as I can get them. I have tried different pci slots as well as reserving irqs in the bios. Still no luck. I even have run this machine in standard pc mode.
Here are my IRQs
http://www.geocities.com/ralphywiggumpi/irqsetup.JPG
You know, it's odd... I have tried going with 21.83 whql, then installing wintv (getting bad results as usual), then up[censored] to 23.11 and it fixed the video problem -but only for a while (maybe a few hours). I have played with the overlay options, but no luck. I even reset the hardware, but no differrent. This sorta reminds me of when I had a slower sytem where if you had a lot of programs open eating memory, the video would look really bad and the color would be all messed up. But I have 512 ram and hardly any services running. I have even tried safemode boot, but same thing.
As for problem number two with the pvr and premiere, you have not heard of any problems like this? It is so strange. Cause as soon as I install the pvr45... premiere can't accesss the dv device. and once I unstall all the inf and apps, premiere is back and running. Any other ideas?
Thanks!
Here are my IRQs
http://www.geocities.com/ralphywiggumpi/irqsetup.JPG
You know, it's odd... I have tried going with 21.83 whql, then installing wintv (getting bad results as usual), then up[censored] to 23.11 and it fixed the video problem -but only for a while (maybe a few hours). I have played with the overlay options, but no luck. I even reset the hardware, but no differrent. This sorta reminds me of when I had a slower sytem where if you had a lot of programs open eating memory, the video would look really bad and the color would be all messed up. But I have 512 ram and hardly any services running. I have even tried safemode boot, but same thing.
As for problem number two with the pvr and premiere, you have not heard of any problems like this? It is so strange. Cause as soon as I install the pvr45... premiere can't accesss the dv device. and once I unstall all the inf and apps, premiere is back and running. Any other ideas?
Thanks!
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/66ce753e/bc/__hr_irqsetup.jpg?bcz9al8Adjq_uN9S
acpi
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/66ce753e/bc/__hr_irqsetup2.jpg?bcz9al8AUzbDQ_5z
(standard pc)
Ok, above is my new irq setup. I am using standard pc instead of acpi.
Reducing the ammount of items sharring the same irq definatley helped, and the picture is fine now on the wintv. However, the problem with premiere still remains. I cannot get the ohci firewire card to stay off the same irq as my wintv card. Is there any way I can specify that irq for the wintv only? I tried in safe mode to change the irq, but windows won't let me.
Thanks!
acpi
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/66ce753e/bc/__hr_irqsetup2.jpg?bcz9al8AUzbDQ_5z
(standard pc)
Ok, above is my new irq setup. I am using standard pc instead of acpi.
Reducing the ammount of items sharring the same irq definatley helped, and the picture is fine now on the wintv. However, the problem with premiere still remains. I cannot get the ohci firewire card to stay off the same irq as my wintv card. Is there any way I can specify that irq for the wintv only? I tried in safe mode to change the irq, but windows won't let me.
Thanks!
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Try disable anything you do't need in the bios like the Communications Port, IDE Channel and if you have USB mouse disable PS/2 mouse port.
Try assign IRQ to the slot
AGP slot IRQ14or15 (That if you disable one IDE Channel) nVidia GeForce2/3
PCI slot2 IRQ12 (That if you disable PS/2 port) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR
PCI slot3 IRQ10 Creative SB Audigy
PCI slot4 IRQ9 Realtek RTL8139 NIC
Try disable anything you do't need in the bios like the Communications Port, IDE Channel and if you have USB mouse disable PS/2 mouse port.
Try assign IRQ to the slot
AGP slot IRQ14or15 (That if you disable one IDE Channel) nVidia GeForce2/3
PCI slot2 IRQ12 (That if you disable PS/2 port) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR
PCI slot3 IRQ10 Creative SB Audigy
PCI slot4 IRQ9 Realtek RTL8139 NIC
