The Motherboard Thread...
I'm just starting this one to discuss motherboard's and motherboard companies. Companies that I think are good: Asus, Tyan, SuperMicro, AOpen. Companies that are coming along: Abit, Epox Companies that suck: FIC.
I'm just starting this one to discuss motherboard's and motherboard companies.
Companies that I think are good: Asus, Tyan, SuperMicro, AOpen.
Companies that are coming along: Abit, Epox
Companies that suck: FIC.
Companies that I think are good: Asus, Tyan, SuperMicro, AOpen.
Companies that are coming along: Abit, Epox
Companies that suck: FIC.
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My current board, an AOpen AX6BC, has yet to give me any serious trouble.
my list
The Good: MSI, Soyo, Abit*, Asus*, IWILL, Gigabyte, SuperMicro, Tyan, EPoX, ECS(their K7S5A is a great ****ing deal. Fast, stable, and CHEAP AS HELL!)
The Bad: Asus, Abit(yes, these get voted twice. ****ers at Asus neglected a CMOS reset switch in the A7V133. But my old CUSL2 went up to 170FSB. As for Abit, I've had 4 boards. The BX6 didn't overclock past 103 mhz FSB, where the Soyo 6BA+3 went to 153mhz before the RAM went out. The SA6R couldn't match the CUSL2's 159mhz standard OC. 2 NV7ms went bad last week after the first one's BIOS update(Abit's batch file the readme said to run) went bad, and the second had a bad controller. I fixed one of the NV7ms by swapping BIOS chips, and use it on my LAN box. I'm posting from it right now.),
The Ugly: PC Chips, Chaintech(PB OEM!!!), FIC
AMD:
If I have to buy an SDRAM board, I'll buy an IWILL KK266+. DDR, I'll buy an MSI board. I love my KT3 Ultra ARU, and my brother's K7T266 Pro-2RU. The Soyo Dragon+ has a better RAID controller(in that it can be set to UDMA controller only), but USB2.0 is more important to me than an $8 NIC.
MSI pwnz0rz j00!
The Good: MSI, Soyo, Abit*, Asus*, IWILL, Gigabyte, SuperMicro, Tyan, EPoX, ECS(their K7S5A is a great ****ing deal. Fast, stable, and CHEAP AS HELL!)
The Bad: Asus, Abit(yes, these get voted twice. ****ers at Asus neglected a CMOS reset switch in the A7V133. But my old CUSL2 went up to 170FSB. As for Abit, I've had 4 boards. The BX6 didn't overclock past 103 mhz FSB, where the Soyo 6BA+3 went to 153mhz before the RAM went out. The SA6R couldn't match the CUSL2's 159mhz standard OC. 2 NV7ms went bad last week after the first one's BIOS update(Abit's batch file the readme said to run) went bad, and the second had a bad controller. I fixed one of the NV7ms by swapping BIOS chips, and use it on my LAN box. I'm posting from it right now.),
The Ugly: PC Chips, Chaintech(PB OEM!!!), FIC
AMD:
If I have to buy an SDRAM board, I'll buy an IWILL KK266+. DDR, I'll buy an MSI board. I love my KT3 Ultra ARU, and my brother's K7T266 Pro-2RU. The Soyo Dragon+ has a better RAID controller(in that it can be set to UDMA controller only), but USB2.0 is more important to me than an $8 NIC.
MSI pwnz0rz j00!
It seems a little unfair to "slate" a motherboard just because it doesn't or doesn't like being run above and beyond specification.
Just my opinion, but saying a motherboard or manufacturer is terrible because the BX chipset wouldn't go above 105Mhz FSB when the BX chipset is only specificed for operation at 100Mhz doesn't seem too fair.
I guess what can be considered a good or bad manufacturer depends entirely on what you are planning on doing with the board in question.
Just my opinion, but saying a motherboard or manufacturer is terrible because the BX chipset wouldn't go above 105Mhz FSB when the BX chipset is only specificed for operation at 100Mhz doesn't seem too fair.
I guess what can be considered a good or bad manufacturer depends entirely on what you are planning on doing with the board in question.
I've come to believe that a board is not good if it cannot work fine at stock speeds and settings. If it fails here, what good is it to overclock? I'm all for overclocking, but only if it can work in a non-OC'd environment.
DFI is nothing fancy, but their boards seem to be nice from what I've read and the test systems at college they have for us to play with.
DFI is nothing fancy, but their boards seem to be nice from what I've read and the test systems at college they have for us to play with.
Asus is my pick, next would be MSI and then Abit.
ECS, FIC, DFI, and Gigabyte, I try to stay away from these.
I can't comment on these though AOpen, and Tyan.
I get put off by Soyo because the price is cheap, but apparently they reliable, my friend has one with a Duron 850 running in one, no problems at all.
ECS, FIC, DFI, and Gigabyte, I try to stay away from these.
I can't comment on these though AOpen, and Tyan.
I get put off by Soyo because the price is cheap, but apparently they reliable, my friend has one with a Duron 850 running in one, no problems at all.