Voodoo5 Vs. Geforce2 Ultra
I'm going to be getting a job soon, and i plan on trying to turn my computer into a massive gaming computer, but i'm stuck on what video card i should get, i've had experience with voodoo cards and there preformance has been quite pleasing, so i've been heading towards Voodoo5 AGP, but i've also head from friends t ...
I'm going to be getting a job soon, and i plan on trying to turn my computer into a massive gaming computer, but i'm stuck on what video card i should get, i've had experience with voodoo cards and there preformance has been quite pleasing, so i've been heading towards Voodoo5 AGP, but i've also head from friends that the Geforce2 Ultra outpreforms the Voodoo5 in a wide range of fields, your guy's advice would be appreciated
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Go for the GeForce.
My GeForce256DDR outperforms the Voodoo5 5500 across the hall in everything but FSAA, when our computers are clocked the same and RAM is the same
My GeForce256DDR outperforms the Voodoo5 5500 across the hall in everything but FSAA, when our computers are clocked the same and RAM is the same
According to 3dfx though the FSAA makes games "smoother and more realistic"
btw the card u have now, is it better then the geforce2 ultra or is it the same card, i've more so been following 3dfx because i've havn't seen as many problems with there cards, so i don't know too much about geforce
btw the card u have now, is it better then the geforce2 ultra or is it the same card, i've more so been following 3dfx because i've havn't seen as many problems with there cards, so i don't know too much about geforce
Me? Mine's the original GeForce(1) DDR 32
It's worse than a GTS and Ultra, but better than an MX
An MX can beat a V5 in some benchmarks...and apparently, that's where my Card is beating my friend's V5.
Either way, you're not getting a Radeon, so you'll be happy.
ATI can't screw you with drivers if you don't have them...and Nvidia puts out so many new ones so quickly, if you don't mind having to reinstall drivers every other week, you have a much wider array of driver choices(from 3.18(my original) to 6.47
It's worse than a GTS and Ultra, but better than an MX
An MX can beat a V5 in some benchmarks...and apparently, that's where my Card is beating my friend's V5.
Either way, you're not getting a Radeon, so you'll be happy.
ATI can't screw you with drivers if you don't have them...and Nvidia puts out so many new ones so quickly, if you don't mind having to reinstall drivers every other week, you have a much wider array of driver choices(from 3.18(my original) to 6.47
Trust me, you would want the FSAA, beleive me, it will make your games look much more better. Who cares about the T&L feature that isn't in the card right now. I heard that when you have a P3 system or higher, the software T&L is actually faster than the video card's T&L feature. The most useful feature that you can have on your video card is the FSAA, it will make your game look much more better. Besides FSAA is the most CPU intensive thing to do. It is better to offloaded it to the video.
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the voodoo cards are unfortunately not in the same league as the geforce/geforce2, so a comparison would be a little unfair.
The geforce(2) will run all your games extremely well, and will also run next year's games pretty well too.
Benchmarks run on current games don't mean much if you expect to be using the hardware you buy today for games in the future. What matters more is features like the geforce's geometry processor and multitexture effects. Sure, FSAA makes all your old games look better.. but without support for the stuff the geforce does (like hardware T&L, pixel shaders, stencil buffering, advanced multitexturing), you'll find that you'll either have to disable effects, or lower the gfx quality in order to play the games coming over christmas and next year at all.
The geforce(2) will run all your games extremely well, and will also run next year's games pretty well too.
Benchmarks run on current games don't mean much if you expect to be using the hardware you buy today for games in the future. What matters more is features like the geforce's geometry processor and multitexture effects. Sure, FSAA makes all your old games look better.. but without support for the stuff the geforce does (like hardware T&L, pixel shaders, stencil buffering, advanced multitexturing), you'll find that you'll either have to disable effects, or lower the gfx quality in order to play the games coming over christmas and next year at all.
errr.... since when did the Geforces stop having FSAA? i thought they were the first Nvidia cards with it...
get a Geforce2. the MX even outperforms the Voodoo5 in a lot of things, and it's a hundred bucks cheaper. 3dfx is going down the crapper. i wouldn't buy one of their cards if i was u.
get a Geforce2. the MX even outperforms the Voodoo5 in a lot of things, and it's a hundred bucks cheaper. 3dfx is going down the crapper. i wouldn't buy one of their cards if i was u.
The Voodoo5 is twice that of a Voodoo4. The voodoo4 is a FAILURE because the MX outperforms it by a LARGE margin.
The Voodoo 6000 is twice that of a Voodoo5.
There's not really innovation being made between Voodoos...just more processors hooked up in SLI(on the same card)
the GeForce chip is MUCH superior to the Voodoo chip.
And that's the simple truth.
The Voodoo 6000 is twice that of a Voodoo5.
There's not really innovation being made between Voodoos...just more processors hooked up in SLI(on the same card)
the GeForce chip is MUCH superior to the Voodoo chip.
And that's the simple truth.
The GF out-performs the V5 card, but you know what? I like the visuals of the V5 much better than those of the GF.
If I were doing mostly online gaming, I'd go with the GF for raw performance. If I was doing mostly single-player, I'd want the purty pictures the V5 offers.
If I wanted to be able to do both, I'd install both cards and do dual monitor display. You CAN switch which display is your primary monitor.
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If I were doing mostly online gaming, I'd go with the GF for raw performance. If I was doing mostly single-player, I'd want the purty pictures the V5 offers.
If I wanted to be able to do both, I'd install both cards and do dual monitor display. You CAN switch which display is your primary monitor.
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[This message has been edited by DeadCats (edited 07 November 2000).]
INFERNO2000 Geforces is not superior to Voodoo5 5500 sure the Geforces is fast on benchmarks but have you ever try playing 3DMark2000 ? hehe, The Geforces has major problem 2D belive it suck hell even ATI run better in 2D Mode then the Geforces dose.
Win I go to Lan Party ever stand over monitor say WoW I say that Voodoo5 5500 runing 640x480x16 4xFSAA enable hehe.
Here a hint INFERNO2000 Rampage.
I love that last part DeadCats
Win I go to Lan Party ever stand over monitor say WoW I say that Voodoo5 5500 runing 640x480x16 4xFSAA enable hehe.
Here a hint INFERNO2000 Rampage.
I love that last part DeadCats
yeah, I know how 3dmark2000 does.
I BEAT THE VOOODOO5!
He scored a 2800, I scored a 4300.
For 2 machines with 256MB RAM, and running at 900mhz.
The reason our scores are so low, is Windows2000.
The superiority is chip for chip.
1 chip on the ultra, outperforming 4 chips on the 6000.
As for cards, yeah, the Voodoo5 gives a MUCH better picture with FSAA enabled...and if that's your thing, nothing is better than the Voodoos.
However, I saw the Voodoo5 CHOKING on the tunnel part of 3dmark2000...whereas I choked on the spinning ring thing.
If you want 2d, go for the G400.
If you want a reasonably sized card that is tops in pure ower and performance, go for a GeForce
If you want a HUGE card that is tops in FSAA,
go for a Voodoo
If you want driver problems and general hastle, go for anything ATI
I BEAT THE VOOODOO5!
He scored a 2800, I scored a 4300.
For 2 machines with 256MB RAM, and running at 900mhz.
The reason our scores are so low, is Windows2000.
The superiority is chip for chip.
1 chip on the ultra, outperforming 4 chips on the 6000.
As for cards, yeah, the Voodoo5 gives a MUCH better picture with FSAA enabled...and if that's your thing, nothing is better than the Voodoos.
However, I saw the Voodoo5 CHOKING on the tunnel part of 3dmark2000...whereas I choked on the spinning ring thing.
If you want 2d, go for the G400.
If you want a reasonably sized card that is tops in pure ower and performance, go for a GeForce
If you want a HUGE card that is tops in FSAA,
go for a Voodoo
If you want driver problems and general hastle, go for anything ATI
No, it was doing poorly in all the textures. 16,32,64, etc.
err... the V5 6000 is like 150 dollars more than the geforce. plus u gotta add in the cost of the nuclear reactor u need to power it, and the special 4 foot long case u gotta buy so it will fit in there.
Inferno- guess what. i beat that voodoo5 too. that guy is an idiot if he is only getting 2400 or whatever. i get about 3200 and i have a TNT2Ultra, and T-bird 800, and only 128 megs pc-100. hehehe....
trust me, you wan't a geforce2. unless of course, you don't like opengl, updated drivers, and ur going to be doing alot with photoshop or something. in the case of 2d buy a g400.
hehehe i got dreamcast up there somehow. wtf was i thinkin? hehe. o well.
[This message has been edited by tristan777 (edited 08 November 2000).]
Inferno- guess what. i beat that voodoo5 too. that guy is an idiot if he is only getting 2400 or whatever. i get about 3200 and i have a TNT2Ultra, and T-bird 800, and only 128 megs pc-100. hehehe....
trust me, you wan't a geforce2. unless of course, you don't like opengl, updated drivers, and ur going to be doing alot with photoshop or something. in the case of 2d buy a g400.
hehehe i got dreamcast up there somehow. wtf was i thinkin? hehe. o well.
[This message has been edited by tristan777 (edited 08 November 2000).]
me: 800eb @ 900 GeForce 256 DDR
him: Athlon 750@900 Voodoo5
him: Athlon 750@900 Voodoo5
Why On earth is this still an issue. I bought a voodoo 5 awhile ago, it blew dick. I could not get respectable frame rates at 1280x1024 in quake 3 with an athlon 650, 128 ram. Pathetic. I took it back and got the Creative GF 2 annilhator pro. I overclocked it and whamo hello here I am running at 1600x1200. As far as I know I'd rather run at 1600 rez than have fsa at 800x600. (barf)
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i have a voodoo5 5500agp and am extremely pleased with my purchase. FSAA is great, no its not as fast as a geforceDDR or GTS2, IN SOME GAMES, but its still bloody fast.
to the person who said they would prefer 1600x1200 over FSAA at lower res, i think not. FSAA is just such a ****ing nice feature. if you don't have it or haven't played on a machine with it you can't really say anyting about it, becuase its whens its turned on you don't really notice it the games just runs along luvly, its when you turn it off you notice it ARGH please turn it back on, NOW!!
If you want brute speed in all games go for the GTS or ULTRA for stupidly fast gaming. If you want luvly graphics quality, stable, fast games go for the voodoo5 5500. It may not last you as long as the GTS2 but hey, i'd still go for it its that sweet.
(by the way, if anyone comes up and says yeah the geforce can do FSAA aswel, yes it can but the geforce on its highest level of FSAA isn't as good as the voodoos 2xFSAA. you just can't compare the 2, its like trying to perform a unbiased benchmark using quake3 and 3dmark 2000, it ain't going to happen)
Anyway, spend some time reading/listen/learning and decide for yourself what cards better suits your needs.
to the person who said they would prefer 1600x1200 over FSAA at lower res, i think not. FSAA is just such a ****ing nice feature. if you don't have it or haven't played on a machine with it you can't really say anyting about it, becuase its whens its turned on you don't really notice it the games just runs along luvly, its when you turn it off you notice it ARGH please turn it back on, NOW!!
If you want brute speed in all games go for the GTS or ULTRA for stupidly fast gaming. If you want luvly graphics quality, stable, fast games go for the voodoo5 5500. It may not last you as long as the GTS2 but hey, i'd still go for it its that sweet.
(by the way, if anyone comes up and says yeah the geforce can do FSAA aswel, yes it can but the geforce on its highest level of FSAA isn't as good as the voodoos 2xFSAA. you just can't compare the 2, its like trying to perform a unbiased benchmark using quake3 and 3dmark 2000, it ain't going to happen)
Anyway, spend some time reading/listen/learning and decide for yourself what cards better suits your needs.
i know a guy with 2 boxes one has a GF2 ultra the other has a V5, he likes the GF2 ultra more because of its openGL performance and better frame rates. I personally like the FSAA on my Geforce 2 MX and i havent seen image quality this good at all. So people that say FSAA doesnt make a diff are dead ass wrong.
I was just saying that running at higher resolution does basically the same thing as fsaa. Colors look better at high resolutions, at least they do to me. I bet 5$ that says I get better frame rates with my Gf2 gts, AND I bet it looks just as good as you oversized waste of silicon voodoo 5. Hmm Two 3dfx chips = 800x600 rez (still see jaggies)
One Nvdia chip = 1600x1200/2058x1536 ( think) and no jaggies. Plus better framerate. I think all you 3dfx lovers are just trying to defend the fact that your personal ignorance and idiocy forced you to buy a 3dfx card. Now you are stuck with it. Sucks to be you.
hm......................
WHy is this an argument?
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System Specs:
MSI 694D Pro-A Mobo
Dual Gighz pentium III's
320 meg pc 133 sdram
30 Gig Maxtor Ata-100
Geforce 2 GTS
DVD w/ Decoder Card
Sblive etc etc...
One Nvdia chip = 1600x1200/2058x1536 ( think) and no jaggies. Plus better framerate. I think all you 3dfx lovers are just trying to defend the fact that your personal ignorance and idiocy forced you to buy a 3dfx card. Now you are stuck with it. Sucks to be you.
hm......................
WHy is this an argument?
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System Specs:
MSI 694D Pro-A Mobo
Dual Gighz pentium III's
320 meg pc 133 sdram
30 Gig Maxtor Ata-100
Geforce 2 GTS
DVD w/ Decoder Card
Sblive etc etc...
