Why are you running Linux?
Just thought I would pose a poll as for your reasoning in selecting this OS. For me, the final kicker was the pricing on upgrading our Exchange server from 5. 5 to 2000. As there is no longer an upgrade option, it will now cost at *least* $10,000US for us to REPLACE the licenses, rather than a few grand at the most ...
Just thought I would pose a poll as for your reasoning in selecting this OS. For me, the final kicker was the pricing on "upgrading" our Exchange server from 5.5 to 2000. As there is no longer an upgrade option, it will now cost at *least* $10,000US for us to REPLACE the licenses, rather than a few grand at the most to upgrade them. I decided that since many applications have matured, while many more new ones are coming down the pipe for Linux that I would try using it again.
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Of course M$ is evil. Why else would I have to scour the .net for weeks trying to find if anyone had written a driver for this cheap carp modem that depends on Windoze for its operation? Whatever happened to building a proper modem? Why do PC makers insist on cutting corners?? A thousand quid on a brand new PC and they couldn't even be BOTHERED to give me a proper freakin' modem??!!!***!!!
BTW I found a driver in the end.
Paul.
BTW I found a driver in the end.
Paul.
Does phpBB support multiple choice polls like vB? Several of those options apply to me.
At the moment though, the main reason is because Windows and decent routing software won't run on a 486DX4/100 with 32Mb RAM and a Hercules graphics card whereas Linux and iptables are perfectly happy in even less than that.
However the customisation, stability, security and to an extent evil Bill () have all played their part over the years.
At the moment though, the main reason is because Windows and decent routing software won't run on a 486DX4/100 with 32Mb RAM and a Hercules graphics card whereas Linux and iptables are perfectly happy in even less than that.
However the customisation, stability, security and to an extent evil Bill () have all played their part over the years.
Which version of Windows and which version of Linux are you addressing? NT4 will run just fine on that box, as I have had several servers in the past running file and print servers (as well as Domain Controllers) on that class of box. I would imagine that running a fully loaded Mandrake 9.0 on it would probably crush its will to live.
That's why we need Linux from Scratch.
The basic reason is to be windepent, and more importantly, I can't afford several copies of Windows AND MS Office for the computers of my family members all at the same time. Nor do I see justification to do so in an upgrade after upgrade (I doubt if many of us will use MS Office the way those corporate data/IT professionals use, or many of us see the really need to upgrade from Win98/2k to XP as necessary, if just to run our favorite apps).
The way I see it, Linux and GPL are indispensable to the open source scene we have these days, and the releases of mozilla.org and Open Office in addition to LAMP and perhaps Gimp are significant as well. The only complaint I can make is the lack of games and media/web authoring applications, which also began to catch up now (eg. Cinerella, Blender, Audacity, and Quanta; but a killer audio/MIDI production app is still pending). There are still more mileages to cover to achieve a level-playing field. But I am optimistic, considering internet is the great propellor of (computing and other) knowledge productions and distributions.
The basic reason is to be windepent, and more importantly, I can't afford several copies of Windows AND MS Office for the computers of my family members all at the same time. Nor do I see justification to do so in an upgrade after upgrade (I doubt if many of us will use MS Office the way those corporate data/IT professionals use, or many of us see the really need to upgrade from Win98/2k to XP as necessary, if just to run our favorite apps).
The way I see it, Linux and GPL are indispensable to the open source scene we have these days, and the releases of mozilla.org and Open Office in addition to LAMP and perhaps Gimp are significant as well. The only complaint I can make is the lack of games and media/web authoring applications, which also began to catch up now (eg. Cinerella, Blender, Audacity, and Quanta; but a killer audio/MIDI production app is still pending). There are still more mileages to cover to achieve a level-playing field. But I am optimistic, considering internet is the great propellor of (computing and other) knowledge productions and distributions.
Quote:Which version of Windows and which version of Linux are you addressing? NT4 will run just fine on that box, as I have had several servers in the past running file and print servers (as well as Domain Controllers) on that class of box. I would imagine that running a fully loaded Mandrake 9.0 on it would probably crush its will to live.
Currently, a server class install of Red Hat 7.2. Mandrake is optimised for Pentium processors and as such probably won't even install on that machine. The video card (it's a combination Hercules monochrome/CGA card IIRC but I keep it in Herc mode because text looks best at 720x400) would most likely screw NT over and I have no plans to upgrade it any time soon (I do most of its configuration via SSH so doesn't need anything really fancy at its end).
Currently, a server class install of Red Hat 7.2. Mandrake is optimised for Pentium processors and as such probably won't even install on that machine. The video card (it's a combination Hercules monochrome/CGA card IIRC but I keep it in Herc mode because text looks best at 720x400) would most likely screw NT over and I have no plans to upgrade it any time soon (I do most of its configuration via SSH so doesn't need anything really fancy at its end).
Let's see.. re-registrating..again?
Just tired of M$ Windowz Claiming it's greatness when it sux. ..Let me see.. Accessing various ms sites when I already blocked them? How about THEIR ads? humm .NET I don't want it.. yet I have removed it 17.. oh wait it is there again. ..other items appearing when I didn't ask for them..? (..I am not bitter.. ..ok so maybe a little bit. )
how about Intel releasing chips when they knew they were bad? Sounds just like M$.. NEway
But I do like my games.. ( Help.. please.. WINE ..)
Lindows.. If only I wouldn't have to re-pay for updates. Humm sounds fishy.. (but it aint Windows )
-Corvus
Just tired of M$ Windowz Claiming it's greatness when it sux. ..Let me see.. Accessing various ms sites when I already blocked them? How about THEIR ads? humm .NET I don't want it.. yet I have removed it 17.. oh wait it is there again. ..other items appearing when I didn't ask for them..? (..I am not bitter.. ..ok so maybe a little bit. )
how about Intel releasing chips when they knew they were bad? Sounds just like M$.. NEway
But I do like my games.. ( Help.. please.. WINE ..)
Lindows.. If only I wouldn't have to re-pay for updates. Humm sounds fishy.. (but it aint Windows )
-Corvus
I honestly believe that gates is the devil himself ' ;( '
i think tux could kick his ass any day 8)
i think tux could kick his ass any day 8)
Hey.. notice how People know there is another OS and how they don't use Linux because their favorite application runs on it. )
Humm.. I THink only one of those answers would be "0" anyways. )
Those that use the site KNOW Linux exists. And those that really don't probably never will be seen here ) Oh well.
-Corvus
Humm.. I THink only one of those answers would be "0" anyways. )
Those that use the site KNOW Linux exists. And those that really don't probably never will be seen here ) Oh well.
-Corvus
well if anyone actually does ansere "theres another os" i would have to seriously question their mental capacity as far as my favorite app running on linux it does but thats not my reason for useing linux my reson for useing linux is 1 microsoft is hellspawn and 2. i didn't have enough money for a mac when i started to use linux
and now my reason is i just can't stop useing it i like having a os that is capable of doing almost anything with enough work.
Viva-La-Penguin
and now my reason is i just can't stop useing it i like having a os that is capable of doing almost anything with enough work.
Viva-La-Penguin
I had to go with, its new and shiny, closest to my answer because my answer is "because its there". I actually love XP coming off of DOS, Windows 3.1, Win 95, 98, 2000 and even ME for about a week. Free software is good, though I find its easier to pay in the long run to get all updates. Its also getting harder and harder to find free versions on many Linux websites and Linux still has a LONG way to go to be as user friendly as Windows. You may disagree with that, but take it from someone who runs it casually, its friendlieness sucks. Bad. All of them. Well, Lindows makes it a bit easier, but you dont know what you did really. If they want to go mainstream, the average guy needs to be able to just go without all the driver and app issues I and many others have. Too bad they cant support .exe files out of the box and ship files and drivers that way, it would make all the difference in the world.
Not to be insulting but i think people who love windows are ignorent about the other options out there, if you don't want to go with linux because its to "hard" to use try going with a mac they're fast , powerful, stable, and easy to use
as far as windows goes i refuse to use an operating system that has flaws purposely designed in it
as far as windows goes i refuse to use an operating system that has flaws purposely designed in it
Linux does have a ways to go in user friendlyness but it is taking that distance in leaps and bounds (i mean suse and redhat can be downright simple to install if you don't choose more advanced options) also simple to run you just have to learn a new interface
the people that talk about how hard suse is to just run (i'm not talking about console commands just running it) are treating it like windows
microsoft is losing money and i think that they will just continue to lose more, as more and more people become aware of the better options like macs and linux.
well i'm going to stop for a while before i continue to rant and rave about M$
the people that talk about how hard suse is to just run (i'm not talking about console commands just running it) are treating it like windows
microsoft is losing money and i think that they will just continue to lose more, as more and more people become aware of the better options like macs and linux.
well i'm going to stop for a while before i continue to rant and rave about M$
Ranting an raving can be fun. ) (especially with M$ involved )
) true Linux is getting better in regaurds to ease of installing, and users can use it like windows. Some programs are just in a different place (and named differently too.. boo-hoo Ever look at someone's machine that they setup themselves anyways? Granted file names are basically the same.) So much for huge learning curve, but then some don't like a slight bend.
I think one of the better examples is RedHat as it ID all of my hardware correctly (Minus one of the two on-board NICS). And basic graphical layout is similar enough to get one started with out knowing anything. Oh well... atleast with the one that works I can find drivers for the second.
Hey.. look.. very little rant 'n rave.. But can't that go without saying? ) hehe
) true Linux is getting better in regaurds to ease of installing, and users can use it like windows. Some programs are just in a different place (and named differently too.. boo-hoo Ever look at someone's machine that they setup themselves anyways? Granted file names are basically the same.) So much for huge learning curve, but then some don't like a slight bend.
I think one of the better examples is RedHat as it ID all of my hardware correctly (Minus one of the two on-board NICS). And basic graphical layout is similar enough to get one started with out knowing anything. Oh well... atleast with the one that works I can find drivers for the second.
Hey.. look.. very little rant 'n rave.. But can't that go without saying? ) hehe
in some cases hardware detection in linux can be better than in windows i'm currently working on my jewlry teachers computer which thinks the cdrom drive is a floppy :x but thats windows for you. lately my only hardware detection problems have only been my moniter (its a kds flat crt) i might not have bought it if at the time i had known that "KDS" stands for korean data systems.
but anyway back a little bit closer to the topic
i use linux simply because it is already better than everything else out there (i like it better than OSX because of its flexability)
my last install of suse i would feel sorry for the newbie that touched it i had 6 partitions on my main hd (its a single user computer) and things as someone in KLUG (kalamazoo linux users group) said "were in the wrong place" because of where things were on partitions but it worked for my and i knew exactly where things were. i'm installing gentoo new becasue its the laatest and greatest shiny thing (i have other more intelligent reasons)
just useing linux doesn't involve a big learning curve anymore like it used to with some distros depending on what you do you can completly avoid using the terminal (i have yet to find a user who does this)
well i have to go to class now ;(
but anyway back a little bit closer to the topic
i use linux simply because it is already better than everything else out there (i like it better than OSX because of its flexability)
my last install of suse i would feel sorry for the newbie that touched it i had 6 partitions on my main hd (its a single user computer) and things as someone in KLUG (kalamazoo linux users group) said "were in the wrong place" because of where things were on partitions but it worked for my and i knew exactly where things were. i'm installing gentoo new becasue its the laatest and greatest shiny thing (i have other more intelligent reasons)
just useing linux doesn't involve a big learning curve anymore like it used to with some distros depending on what you do you can completly avoid using the terminal (i have yet to find a user who does this)
well i have to go to class now ;(
i like how if windows doesn't have drivers for some hardware it will use "the closest match" and that almost never works it just makes it harder to get it set up and the cycle begins (my teachers computer now thinks the cd-rom is a corrupted hd, why the hell it thinks that i have no clue its setting up a cd-rom drive so it asks you to insert the f'ing windows install cd ;( )
i like how in linux you can place things where you want and they work do that with windows and you can make it crash, and burn.
