This german article claims to have an exclusive update on the performance of the ATI Radeon 8500 VS. Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 500. The benchmarks are done using v.4.13.7191 of ATI's drivers and Nvidia's Detonator XP. The results are simply astounding, assuming the article is creditable. The Radeon 8500 rivals the Geforce3 Ti 500 in Quake3 benchmarks, falling behind only a minor few FPS, while completely dominating the 3Dmark 2001 scores. Considering the lower price and undeniable feature advantages of the Radeon 8500, ATI may have a big winner on their hands despite Nvidia's best efforts to retain the performance crown.