So does that 12 months include sending the chip back for any respins? Actually, did RS480 need any respins at all? We heard whispers within ATI that your team is known for getting silicon back working with performance and stability you could probably ship with?

John: Well, we do well with that side of things. RS480 came back working first time and got a silicon spin for some minor stuff before we went to full production. We could probably have shipped the bridge on A11 if we wanted to, though. Now this is a cool story. RS482, which is the 110nm shrink of RS480, we got that back in a full package, first silicon, and nine minutes after getting the package we had it up and running, playing Doom. That's nine minutes from being handed the package, getting it onto a socket on the board, getting the BIOS set and booting the OS, before getting Doom up and running on the core.